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Ciao all,

here comes the : Tirpitz

... so my ' Lovely Queen of the North ' .......









Ciao Antonio

Ciao all,

I am sure many would like to see and know those details of Op. Rosselsprung Tirpitz camouflage scheme.

http://www.forum.marinearchiv.de/viewto ... a0c2#15710


Ciao Antonio

I have some suggestions to the already beautiful pictorials:

1). add drawings (Skizzen) of the ships with their camouflage schemes.

2). There were numerous beautiful original sharp colour photo's made of Gneisenau, Lützow, Tirpitz, Hipper, Prinz Eugen and Scharnhorst in the wartime Magazine Signal but these also appeared at Internet, some german books about their major warships. These showed all the German turret top colors like Karmin (rosarot) of the Eugen, the light blue on the Scharnhorst, the dark Yellow on the Gneisenau aso.

I know about 24 beautiful colour photographs. Please collect all these and depict them in the calenders.

Hello everybody,


69 years ago Tirpitz was sunk in Tromso. R.I.P young sailors and ... my Lovely Queen of the North ...

Bye Antonio

Antonio Bonomi wrote:Hello everybody,


69 years ago Tirpitz was sunk in Tromso. R.I.P young sailors and ... my Lovely Queen of the North ...

Bye Antonio

Such good work Antonio...

A very beautifull ship... I don't know if it's because I watched her so many times in pictures, but in my opinion she fits very very nicely in the Arctic landscape.

Hello Alecsandros,

YES, you are right .... my LOVELY QUEEN of the NORTH !

Bye Antonio

just a comment
"15th of october 1944 towed to Tromsoe"
should mean "relocated under own power". Even the foreship was mostly flooded by the Tallboy hit during PARAVANE the machinery was ready for use and strenght of structure allowed for velocities of 15 knots. The help of the ten tugs was not required.(war diary)

Hello everybody,

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Bye Antonio

Hi Antonio,

Let me ask you a few questions about the evolution of Tirpitz's armament:

- We know that in March 1942, occured her Lofoten raid, in which she was attacked by 12 Albacores launched from Victorious. 2 were shot down, and several others badly damaged for no hits. Do you know what was her AA defence at the time ?

- Are there any records of her firing trials in Baltic or Norway ? I know she performed several, but I do not have any infos...

Thank you very much, and wish you all the best,

Hello everybody,

@ Alecsandros,

YES, I do know everything about Tirpitz evolutions including the A/A armament.

Here you go for March 1942 during Op. Sportpalast and the Albacore attack.

12 by 20 mm single mount

16 = 4 x 4 by 20 mm on vierling mounting ( quadruple )

16 = 8 x 2 by 37 mm twin mount

16 = 8 x 2 by 105 mm twin mount

I do not have her official firing record reports, ... I will try to see what I can find for you on the KTB's.

Bye Antonio

That would mean the difference between Tirpitz and Bismarck in terms of AA in March 1942 were only the 4 Vierlings ?

I expected more of them... Because Tirpitz performed far better against the 12 Albacores than Bismarck did against the 8 (later 15) Swordfishes...

Oh well, better training, Friedrich Ihn close by, and perhaps better luck...

Hello everybody,

@ Alecsandros,

No, only 2 vierlings more than Bismarck that had the 2 vierlings on the searchlight platform just like Tirpitz.

The 2 Tirpitz more vierlings were the ones aft, on the base of the rangefinder protecting the stern area, ... having learned the Bismarck lesson .

The rest was the same even if Bismarck ha 2 single 20 mm Werhmacht mounting aft, ... but she did not reutilize the 2 by 20 mms single removed from the searchlight platform when they installed the 2 vierlings there, ... like Tirpitz did instead ... to increase the overall A/A fire capability.

The difference on the performances was done by the Arado 196 Tirpitz used ... to attack the Albacores ... while Bismarck was not using any airplane to defend herself.

If only they had thought about putting some fighters on board ... like British did with Hurricanes ... and Italian did with Reggiane on the Littorio class too.

Bye Antonio

I believe Bismarck's 37mm were single mounts and also loaded one round at a time.

Hello everybody,

@ Steve Crandell

here Bismarck infos :

http://www.bismarck3d.pl/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=17

and the 37 mm twin guns

http://www.bismarck3d.pl/images/stories ... g/ww01.jpg

more

http://3dhistory.de/wordpress/3d-models/dkm-bismarck


Bye Antonio

Antonio,

Thank you for the info, and they were indeed twin mounts as you indicated. However, they were also hand loaded one round at a time. I have seen a photo of them in action, and you can see clearly from the photo you indicated that there is no place for a multi round magazine.