How did you come to be interested in Bismarck?
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Like many of the posts it seems here my fascination with KMS Bismark started from childhood.
I was first introduced to this ship at a naval war memorial in Germany, i cant remember the name of it but there was a U-boat purchased on concrete stands, next to which was a tower, in front of that was 'what seemed to me at the time an enormous' screw propeller. i believe it came from Bismark or was a replica i don't know... i remember thinking whatever that was attached to must have been huge.
Inside the tower was a large model of Bismark, it was pretty obvious from all the guns, and the complex mass of other things this ship was bristling with- that to provoke it would be a bad idea and have deadly consequences.
As a small boy i'm naturaly going to be impressed by such things, but there was more to it then simple boyhood fascinations with size and power. it was also about shape and form.
Bismark has a fairly distinct form, there is something about her slightly peeled up bow and stern, and the very complex looking superstructure perched perfectly on top of its elegantly formed hull, rising high up and back down from some angles and appearing as a triangular shaped mountains mass from other angles. there seems to be so much going on that its not possible to analyse it all at once, you have to take the ship one aspect at a time. it gives an impression that its to grand just to grant it a passing look.
you add that beauty and elegance to the enormous feeling of power the ship had about it, and while Bismark was not the biggest ship she was pretty bloody big, and that obvious weight sits like a house in a swimming pool, it all rounds up to something that can be likened to a very big piece of art, Bismark is perhaps even slightly romantic in that sense.
that's what for me makes Bismark stand out from all the others, as it did when i was a small boy.
I was first introduced to this ship at a naval war memorial in Germany, i cant remember the name of it but there was a U-boat purchased on concrete stands, next to which was a tower, in front of that was 'what seemed to me at the time an enormous' screw propeller. i believe it came from Bismark or was a replica i don't know... i remember thinking whatever that was attached to must have been huge.
Inside the tower was a large model of Bismark, it was pretty obvious from all the guns, and the complex mass of other things this ship was bristling with- that to provoke it would be a bad idea and have deadly consequences.
As a small boy i'm naturaly going to be impressed by such things, but there was more to it then simple boyhood fascinations with size and power. it was also about shape and form.
Bismark has a fairly distinct form, there is something about her slightly peeled up bow and stern, and the very complex looking superstructure perched perfectly on top of its elegantly formed hull, rising high up and back down from some angles and appearing as a triangular shaped mountains mass from other angles. there seems to be so much going on that its not possible to analyse it all at once, you have to take the ship one aspect at a time. it gives an impression that its to grand just to grant it a passing look.
you add that beauty and elegance to the enormous feeling of power the ship had about it, and while Bismark was not the biggest ship she was pretty bloody big, and that obvious weight sits like a house in a swimming pool, it all rounds up to something that can be likened to a very big piece of art, Bismark is perhaps even slightly romantic in that sense.
that's what for me makes Bismark stand out from all the others, as it did when i was a small boy.
Re: How did you come to be interested in Bismarck?
Wwlcome to the forum Les.
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Hi there!
It's a great forum you've got here. Internet is good when I come across finds like this.
I come to be interested in Bismarck when I read about the great warship as a little kid. Since then, I read some books, heard some of my old people's war stories and so on.
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It's a great forum you've got here. Internet is good when I come across finds like this.
I come to be interested in Bismarck when I read about the great warship as a little kid. Since then, I read some books, heard some of my old people's war stories and so on.
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The film Sink The Bismarck with Kenneth More and Dana Andrews. Dated by todays standards but historically, at that time, accurate. Then I went on to build models of her (as well as tanks and aircraft). Then my models vanished into history as I went into the forces proper for 17 years. Getting onto the net, and building sites, rekindled my interest and I have a large section on the bismarck on my site with, thanks to Jose, a timeline.
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Mike, this film is absolutely stuffed with inaccuracies. A good film, yes, but it is a fictional account only.
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Understood. As I said, at the time of production, many things believed proved to be false. A good example of misleading truth is the explanation that a night fighterpilot, johnny cunningham, ate lots of carrots as it improved his eyesight - no mention of his airborne radar!! I suppose as more and more info becomes available, past items seem more and more incredulous.
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Yes, but the mistake about HMS Solent was deliberate - no destroyer of that name was deployed against Bismarck and no destroyer was sunk by Bismarck, facts known to the RN and the recorders of history on the allied side from 27 May onwards.... so in my book this mistake was deliberate to spice up the film, as were the Swordfish being shot down.....
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Things that are 'poetic licence' as they say. And as you will agree across the pond, Hollywood truth is far from that!! I have got sink the bismarck! I think I will have to run through it again.
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And Mike, when you run through again, you will see the lovely Dana Wynter and not the long gone America actor, Dana Andrews. Just for the record.
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First of all, I read the SINKING of the BISMARCK, a children's book by William L Shirer. I was fascinated by the thrill of the chase and how near thing it was that the German battlewagon escaped. Secondly, I saw the movie SINK THE BISMARCK and enjoyed it thoroughly. Today, I know that there are a number of grave innacuracies in the story, especially about the sinking of the RN DD Solon.
I thought the models in that movie were well done. I purchased a model by AURORA of the Bismarck and was highly disappointed. Nonetheless, I remained fascinated by the story of the greatest of all German battleships and still am to this day.
I thought the models in that movie were well done. I purchased a model by AURORA of the Bismarck and was highly disappointed. Nonetheless, I remained fascinated by the story of the greatest of all German battleships and still am to this day.
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Aurora are not very good, you should have bought either the Airfix version or a Tamiya one. At least I think its Tamiya but it is Japanese.
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Oh, I agree, Mike, but when I obtained the Aurora they were just coming out with their surface ships, Bismarck, Yamato and a few others. If I had known better, I would have waited for Airfix and that model was not accurate either but was more so than the Aurora.
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I think accuracy depends on the scale involved. I have just built a U Boat, large and detail is quite reasonable.
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I became interested for a varity of reasons. First, I loved history, especially military history. While my interest was mainly landbased, I became interested in the Bismarck after seeing the film "Sink the Bismarck" (and hearing the popular song by the same name on the radio). Also, I suppose, because I was interested in her namesake, Otto Bismarck. Then, I learned I was related to one of her crew members, Werner Hosse. A little later, I bought a model of the Bismarck and Hood. I painstakingly painted both and kept them high on my bookself with my "prized" possessions...my books. When I grew older, I joined the Navy.
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