Most Beautiful Dreadnought
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I consider a Dreadnought to be a ship with battleship caliber guns, all of which are of the same size and can fire to both sides of the ship.
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So you are including Alaska, Graf Spee, Furious, Glorious, and Coragious? Not to mention Robers and Abercrombie>Bgile wrote:I consider a Dreadnought to be a ship with battleship caliber guns, all of which are of the same size and can fire to both sides of the ship.
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Yes, absolutely. I believe that represents the advance represented by Dreadnought and other contemporary ships. Prior to that, ships had more than one caliber of heavy gun and many of them couldn't fire to either side, which was very inefficient and is why Dreadnought completely outclassed them on the same displacement.lwd wrote:So you are including Alaska, Graf Spee, Furious, Glorious, and Coragious? Not to mention Robers and Abercrombie>Bgile wrote:I consider a Dreadnought to be a ship with battleship caliber guns, all of which are of the same size and can fire to both sides of the ship.
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I agree with Bgile, as wellBgile wrote:Yes, absolutely. I believe that represents the advance represented by Dreadnought and other contemporary ships. Prior to that, ships had more than one caliber of heavy gun and many of them couldn't fire to either side, which was very inefficient and is why Dreadnought completely outclassed them on the same displacement.lwd wrote:So you are including Alaska, Graf Spee, Furious, Glorious, and Coragious? Not to mention Robers and Abercrombie>Bgile wrote:I consider a Dreadnought to be a ship with battleship caliber guns, all of which are of the same size and can fire to both sides of the ship.
Alaska's are definately in, but you do get in a gray area including Pocket Battleships and Fisher's crazy light battlecrusiers. Just to make everything easy they should be included since their designs are based on true dreadnoughts and they would be capable of fighting them, though not that well
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In some cases but the ACW moniters for instance usualy carried the same size gun.Bgile wrote:Yes, absolutely. I believe that represents the advance represented by Dreadnought and other contemporary ships. Prior to that, ships had more than one caliber of heavy gun and many of them couldn't fire to either side, which was very inefficient and is why Dreadnought completely outclassed them on the same displacement.lwd wrote:So you are including Alaska, Graf Spee, Furious, Glorious, and Coragious? Not to mention Robers and Abercrombie>Bgile wrote:I consider a Dreadnought to be a ship with battleship caliber guns, all of which are of the same size and can fire to both sides of the ship.
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I agree with Bgile, as wellKyler wrote:Yes, absolutely. I believe that represents the advance represented by Dreadnought and other contemporary ships. Prior to that, ships had more than one caliber of heavy gun and many of them couldn't fire to either side, which was very inefficient and is why Dreadnought completely outclassed them on the same displacement.Bgile wrote:[quote="lwd]So you are including Alaska, Graf Spee, Furious, Glorious, and Coragious? Not to mention Robers and Abercrombie>
Alaska's are definately in, but you do get in a gray area including Pocket Battleships and Fisher's crazy light battlecrusiers. Just to make everything easy they should be included since their designs are based on true dreadnoughts and they would be capable of fighting them, though not that well[/quote][/quote][/quote]
What about Roberts, Abercrombie, and thier ilk?
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Though armed with Dreadnought weapons, they were designed at costal bombarding vessels. I wouldn't consider them dreadnoughts that just my opinion
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SCHARNHORST, KONGO, REPULSE, ALASKA, RICHELIEU...my 6-10RF wrote:Where would you part Scharnhorst if its not in your top five crawfish?
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Sure, but that predates the whole era of the battleship. I realize they qualify by my definition, and I suppose they do represent the first use of center line turrets although those were the only guns they had.lwd wrote:In some cases but the ACW moniters for instance usualy carried the same size gun.
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I don't know how anybody can think Iowa is pretty, not with that bow. Repulses bow however is very pretty.
The Kongos are well proprotioned too overall.
The Kongos are well proprotioned too overall.
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Well, these are some photos of the some Battleships (models at 1:350) which made some points on which is the most beautiful.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/alb ... 333&ref=pb
Bismarck, Hood and Repulse fit the bill for me.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/alb ... 333&ref=pb
Bismarck, Hood and Repulse fit the bill for me.
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Karl, you don't seem like the facebook type
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Wrong f@%king ship!" Commander Stewart-Moore (HMS Ark Royal)
Wrong f@%king ship!" Commander Stewart-Moore (HMS Ark Royal)
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Kyler;
Weill, I do what I can to be as friendly as can be, life is short anyway. I know that according to mkenny I'm the devil and Genda says no one is uglier than me (maybe because he did his assesment before mkenny appeared). However, I will like to know what do I look to you?Karl, you don't seem like the facebook type
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I would not say your the devil, you just have a habit of being annoying from time to time like you last post about Jutland
The best way to put it, sometimes you mute button is broken
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