Battleship Top Ten
- Karl Heidenreich
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Battleship Top Ten
After all these months in the forum I´m attempting to put in order some concepts. This is what I called the "Battleship Top Ten":
I. The Ten Most Powerfull WWII Battleships & Battlecruisers (descending order):
1. Yamato Class
2. Iowa Class
3. South Dakota Class
4. North Carolina Class
5. Bismarck Class
6. Richelieu Class
7. KGV Class
8. Nagato Class
9. HMS Hood
10. Littorio Class
II. The Ten Most Beautiful WWII Battleships & Battlecruisers (descending order):
1. Bismarck
2. HMS Hood
3. Yamato
4. HMS KGV
5. HMS Warspite
6. HMS Repulse
7. Richelieu
8. Vittorio Veneto
9. Schanhorst
10. HMS Royal Oak
III. The Ten Most Famous WWII Battleships & Battlecruisers (descending order):
1. Bismarck
2. Hood
3. Yamato
4. Schanhorst
5. USS Missouri (the Japanese surrender on her deck and Cher sing there)
6. Royal Oak
7. Arizona
8. Tirpitz
7. Prince of Wales
8. Repulse
9. KGV
The 1 most uglier Battleship of all time:
1. Gangut
Best regards!
I. The Ten Most Powerfull WWII Battleships & Battlecruisers (descending order):
1. Yamato Class
2. Iowa Class
3. South Dakota Class
4. North Carolina Class
5. Bismarck Class
6. Richelieu Class
7. KGV Class
8. Nagato Class
9. HMS Hood
10. Littorio Class
II. The Ten Most Beautiful WWII Battleships & Battlecruisers (descending order):
1. Bismarck
2. HMS Hood
3. Yamato
4. HMS KGV
5. HMS Warspite
6. HMS Repulse
7. Richelieu
8. Vittorio Veneto
9. Schanhorst
10. HMS Royal Oak
III. The Ten Most Famous WWII Battleships & Battlecruisers (descending order):
1. Bismarck
2. Hood
3. Yamato
4. Schanhorst
5. USS Missouri (the Japanese surrender on her deck and Cher sing there)
6. Royal Oak
7. Arizona
8. Tirpitz
7. Prince of Wales
8. Repulse
9. KGV
The 1 most uglier Battleship of all time:
1. Gangut
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Hi Karl.
Scharnhorst should be top of the "Most beautiful" list
On the "most powerful" list, swap Hood for Rodney.
On the "most famous" list, Arizona should swap places with Yamato.
I'm sure more people will have heard of the Arizona than have heard of Yamato.
Scharnhorst should be top of the "Most beautiful" list
On the "most powerful" list, swap Hood for Rodney.
On the "most famous" list, Arizona should swap places with Yamato.
I'm sure more people will have heard of the Arizona than have heard of Yamato.
God created the world in 6 days.........and on the 7th day he built the Scharnhorst
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Gary:
About Most Beautiful Battleship you´ll have to wait until the End of Days because Bismarck would stay there forever, sorry.
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Let´s wait for others´opinions and criteria...Hi Karl.
Scharnhorst should be top of the "Most beautiful" list
On the "most powerful" list, swap Hood for Rodney.
On the "most famous" list, Arizona should swap places with Yamato.
I'm sure more people will have heard of the Arizona than have heard of Yamato.
About Most Beautiful Battleship you´ll have to wait until the End of Days because Bismarck would stay there forever, sorry.
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Re: Battleship Top Ten
If "powerful" refers to the ability to inflict and survive damage, Hood and Nagato may not belong. Nelson has been nominated. Notice we would be including all the full-sized post-treaty ships, which makes sense. The most powerful of the old ships was West Virginia.
The most beautiful battleships were the rebuilt Cavours.
Gangut had an elegant appearance until the Soviets started modernizing her. I think Fuso ended up uglier. And if you throw in the pre-dreads, you have a whole bunch of revolting monstrosities.
The most beautiful battleships were the rebuilt Cavours.
Gangut had an elegant appearance until the Soviets started modernizing her. I think Fuso ended up uglier. And if you throw in the pre-dreads, you have a whole bunch of revolting monstrosities.
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Tiornu:
Well, the list will go like this:
I . The Ten Most Powerfull WWII Battleships & Battlecruisers (descending order):
1. Yamato Class
2. Iowa Class
3. South Dakota Class
4. North Carolina Class
5. Bismarck Class
6. Richelieu Class
7. KGV Class
8. ___________ Class Nagato´s place
9. HMS Nelson instead of Hood
10. Littorio Class
Any idea of who goes in Nagato´s place? We must fill the row.
Your call...
You are the second who refer about Hood being changed by Nelson. OK, make sense, many 16" guns and armour. Doesn´t speed and manouver capability matter here?If "powerful" refers to the ability to inflict and survive damage, Hood and Nagato may not belong. Nelson has been nominated. Notice we would be including all the full-sized post-treaty ships, which makes sense.
Well, the list will go like this:
I . The Ten Most Powerfull WWII Battleships & Battlecruisers (descending order):
1. Yamato Class
2. Iowa Class
3. South Dakota Class
4. North Carolina Class
5. Bismarck Class
6. Richelieu Class
7. KGV Class
8. ___________ Class Nagato´s place
9. HMS Nelson instead of Hood
10. Littorio Class
Any idea of who goes in Nagato´s place? We must fill the row.
Your call...
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- marcelo_malara
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Hi,
I think, in my opinion, that Nagato, KGV, are most powerfull than Richelieu.
I don't understand to see Royal Oak, Richelieu, Yamato in the list of beautiful battleship.
And as other, i would replace Yamato by the Arizona.
Best regards
An interesting web page:
http://www.battleship.org/html/Articles ... Better.htm
http://www.combinedfleet.com/baddest.htm
I think, in my opinion, that Nagato, KGV, are most powerfull than Richelieu.
I don't understand to see Royal Oak, Richelieu, Yamato in the list of beautiful battleship.
And as other, i would replace Yamato by the Arizona.
Best regards
An interesting web page:
http://www.battleship.org/html/Articles ... Better.htm
http://www.combinedfleet.com/baddest.htm
I must disagree regarding Richelieu. She is more powerfully armed than KGV. Her vitals have better deck protection than KGV's (as good as any ship's except Yamato's). Her belt is thick and inclined and backed by worthwhile splinter protection. Her main battery has much more armor than KGV's, not to mention the conning tower. And if we are including mobility, Richelieu has more range and speed than KGV.
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- Karl Heidenreich
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Gary:
1. Arizona swap place with Yamato in "The Ten Most Famous"
2. Sorry ostriker, but Richelieu stays as a more powerfull BB than the KGV or Nagato.
3. Nagato stays in her place because there is no replacement for her and no one comes forward with one.
Another ideas? this is funny.
I. The Ten Most Powerfull WWII Battleships & Battlecruisers (descending order):
1. Yamato Class
2. Iowa Class
3. South Dakota Class
4. North Carolina Class
5. Bismarck Class
6. Richelieu Class
7. KGV Class
8. Nagato Class
9. Nelson Class
10. Littorio Class
III. The Ten Most Famous WWII Battleships & Battlecruisers (descending order):
1. Bismarck
2. Hood
3. Arizona
4. Schanhorst
5. USS Missouri (the Japanese surrender on her deck and Cher sing there)
6. Royal Oak
7. Yamato
8. Tirpitz
7. Prince of Wales
8. Repulse
9. KGV
Marcelo:
How your rating works? Can you try it with these ships in order to see how they qualify?
Best regards!
Ostriker:On the "most famous" list, Arizona should swap places with Yamato.
I'm sure more people will have heard of the Arizona than have heard of Yamato.
Tiornu:Hi,
I think, in my opinion, that Nagato, KGV, are most powerfull than Richelieu.
I don't understand to see Royal Oak, Richelieu, Yamato in the list of beautiful battleship.
And as other, i would replace Yamato by the Arizona.
Best regards
Nlneff:I must disagree regarding Richelieu. She is more powerfully armed than KGV. Her vitals have better deck protection than KGV's (as good as any ship's except Yamato's). Her belt is thick and inclined and backed by worthwhile splinter protection. Her main battery has much more armor than KGV's, not to mention the conning tower. And if we are including mobility, Richelieu has more range and speed than KGV.
So, listening to all these and finding that most of you agree in certain points then:In addition, Richelieu's TDS is 75% deeper then KGV's amidships.
1. Arizona swap place with Yamato in "The Ten Most Famous"
2. Sorry ostriker, but Richelieu stays as a more powerfull BB than the KGV or Nagato.
3. Nagato stays in her place because there is no replacement for her and no one comes forward with one.
Another ideas? this is funny.
I. The Ten Most Powerfull WWII Battleships & Battlecruisers (descending order):
1. Yamato Class
2. Iowa Class
3. South Dakota Class
4. North Carolina Class
5. Bismarck Class
6. Richelieu Class
7. KGV Class
8. Nagato Class
9. Nelson Class
10. Littorio Class
III. The Ten Most Famous WWII Battleships & Battlecruisers (descending order):
1. Bismarck
2. Hood
3. Arizona
4. Schanhorst
5. USS Missouri (the Japanese surrender on her deck and Cher sing there)
6. Royal Oak
7. Yamato
8. Tirpitz
7. Prince of Wales
8. Repulse
9. KGV
Marcelo:
How your rating works? Can you try it with these ships in order to see how they qualify?
Best regards!
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Sir Winston Churchill
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- Karl Heidenreich
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About Richelieu. If we look at "Combined Fleet" ratings the French Dreadnought is more powerfull than Old Good Bismarck. Do someone agrees with this or shall we let them stay in their places instead of swap them?
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