Best war movie ever?

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Post by marcelo_malara » Wed May 30, 2007 6:04 pm

Did anyone see this: Von Richthofen and Brown? I found it digging in allmovie.com.

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Post by Karl Heidenreich » Wed May 30, 2007 6:52 pm

Nope. I imagine is a potrayal of how Brown shot down the Red Baron, which was not, because the Red Baron was shot by some aussies with AA fire.

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Post by marcelo_malara » Wed May 30, 2007 8:51 pm

The allmovie review says the fighting scenes are good.

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Post by RF » Thu May 31, 2007 10:07 am

The fighting scenes have to be good to make the film a saleable commodity, after all it is in the business of entertainment. The problem is that historical accuracy is sacrificed for a ''good'' film.
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Post by George Roumbos » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:53 pm

Hi all

"DAS BOOT"
"300"
"Blue Max"
"The Beast"
"Ich lasse mir doch mein Schiff nicht unter dem Arsch wegschiessen. Feuererlaubnis !"

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Post by dunmunro » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:46 am

In the air:

The Dam Busters

At Sea:

The Cruel Sea

Das Boot

On Ground:

War and Peace (The Soviet 8hr version) Nobody can top a battle scene filmed with over 100,000 extras and even a helicopter borne camera cannot see the whole battle field!

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Post by marcelo_malara » Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:08 pm

Hi all:

Somebody sent me this link: http://www.coastcomp.com/av/fltline2/avmovie.htm

It is a list of military aviation movies, with some details on the stuff used. Look for Battle of Britain, is really amazing.

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Post by José M. Rico » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:35 pm

marcelo_malara wrote:Look for Battle of Britain, is really amazing.
The Heinkels He-111 used in the Battle of Britain film were Spanish built CASA 2111 of the Spanish Air Force.

I visited the Air Museum here in Madrid a few months ago and they had one of them on display as well as another veteran of the Spanish Civil War.

http://www.feelmadrid.com/photo176.html

http://www.feelmadrid.com/photo173.html

If I remember correctly there are also at least two Hispano HA 1112M-1L Buchon; the Spanish version of the Bf-109.

Museo del Aire, Madrid
http://www.feelmadrid.com/museodelaire.html

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Post by redalb2253 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:09 pm

Private Ryan is as close as it gets to real combat from what I've seen and from what WW2 vets who were there have said about it, U-577 for the depth charge scenes.
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Post by Bgile » Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:58 pm

redalb2253 wrote:Private Ryan is as close as it gets to real combat from what I've seen and from what WW2 vets who were there have said about it, U-577 for the depth charge scenes.
I agree about "Saving Private Ryan", particularly the D-Day invasion part.

The Das Boot depth charge scenes were better, and U-577 was a terrible movie in general. A lot of it was ridiculous.

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Post by Karl Heidenreich » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:17 pm

I agree that the scenes of D-Day for Saving Private Ryan were good. But the best Spielberg´s combat can be seen in Band of Brothers Chapter 4: Replacements. It´s when Easy Company is about to occupy a town in Holand during Operation Market Garden and find it already occupied by Germans. The small unit combat there is, simple, superb and you can actually see how the infantry tactics are potrayed. Very good, much better than Saving Private Ryan.
About Das Boot is a very good movie, very depressing and we don´t actually see a sub combat (as you can see in The Enemy Below or the Bongo Strait).
U-whatever is just stupidity as can only be seen in a Hollywood contemporary movie (with Pearl Harbor in close competition).

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Post by redalb2253 » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:07 pm

My son called Pear harbour "Titanic with bombs". After he got through cussing the Japs (greatgrandad was there).
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Post by Karl Heidenreich » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:18 pm

redalb2253:
My son called Pear harbour "Titanic with bombs".
Not being a Cameron fan myself I have to say that Titanic was far more superior, as a movie and historical document, than Pearl Harbor which is one of the greater trash film ever filmed...
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Post by marcelo_malara » Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:24 pm

Agreed, Titanic is flawless in its technical details, while in Pearl you have to suffer the Japanese carriers with theirs angled decks and the modern USN CG moored alongside the old ironsides...

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Post by Karl Heidenreich » Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:07 am

Marcelo:
Agreed, Titanic is flawless in its technical details, while in Pearl you have to suffer the Japanese carriers with theirs angled decks and the modern USN CG moored alongside the old ironsides...
100% right Marcelo. Pearl Harbor and U-57whatever are true trash.
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