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Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:07 pm
by Bgile
I consider a Dreadnought to be a ship with battleship caliber guns, all of which are of the same size and can fire to both sides of the ship.

Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:11 pm
by lwd
Bgile wrote:I consider a Dreadnought to be a ship with battleship caliber guns, all of which are of the same size and can fire to both sides of the ship.
So you are including Alaska, Graf Spee, Furious, Glorious, and Coragious? Not to mention Robers and Abercrombie>

Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:31 pm
by Bgile
lwd wrote:
Bgile wrote:I consider a Dreadnought to be a ship with battleship caliber guns, all of which are of the same size and can fire to both sides of the ship.
So you are including Alaska, Graf Spee, Furious, Glorious, and Coragious? Not to mention Robers and Abercrombie>
Yes, absolutely. I believe that represents the advance represented by Dreadnought and other contemporary ships. Prior to that, ships had more than one caliber of heavy gun and many of them couldn't fire to either side, which was very inefficient and is why Dreadnought completely outclassed them on the same displacement.

Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:35 pm
by Kyler
Bgile wrote:
lwd wrote:
Bgile wrote:I consider a Dreadnought to be a ship with battleship caliber guns, all of which are of the same size and can fire to both sides of the ship.
So you are including Alaska, Graf Spee, Furious, Glorious, and Coragious? Not to mention Robers and Abercrombie>
Yes, absolutely. I believe that represents the advance represented by Dreadnought and other contemporary ships. Prior to that, ships had more than one caliber of heavy gun and many of them couldn't fire to either side, which was very inefficient and is why Dreadnought completely outclassed them on the same displacement.
I agree with Bgile, as well

Alaska's are definately in, but you do get in a gray area including Pocket Battleships and Fisher's crazy light battlecrusiers. Just to make everything easy they should be included since their designs are based on true dreadnoughts and they would be capable of fighting them, though not that well

Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:10 pm
by lwd
Bgile wrote:
lwd wrote:
Bgile wrote:I consider a Dreadnought to be a ship with battleship caliber guns, all of which are of the same size and can fire to both sides of the ship.
So you are including Alaska, Graf Spee, Furious, Glorious, and Coragious? Not to mention Robers and Abercrombie>
Yes, absolutely. I believe that represents the advance represented by Dreadnought and other contemporary ships. Prior to that, ships had more than one caliber of heavy gun and many of them couldn't fire to either side, which was very inefficient and is why Dreadnought completely outclassed them on the same displacement.
In some cases but the ACW moniters for instance usualy carried the same size gun.

Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:12 pm
by lwd
Kyler wrote:
Bgile wrote:[quote="lwd]So you are including Alaska, Graf Spee, Furious, Glorious, and Coragious? Not to mention Robers and Abercrombie>
Yes, absolutely. I believe that represents the advance represented by Dreadnought and other contemporary ships. Prior to that, ships had more than one caliber of heavy gun and many of them couldn't fire to either side, which was very inefficient and is why Dreadnought completely outclassed them on the same displacement.
I agree with Bgile, as well

Alaska's are definately in, but you do get in a gray area including Pocket Battleships and Fisher's crazy light battlecrusiers. Just to make everything easy they should be included since their designs are based on true dreadnoughts and they would be capable of fighting them, though not that well[/quote][/quote][/quote]
What about Roberts, Abercrombie, and thier ilk?

Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:35 pm
by Kyler
Though armed with Dreadnought weapons, they were designed at costal bombarding vessels. I wouldn't consider them dreadnoughts that just my opinion

Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:34 pm
by chcrawfish
RF wrote:Where would you part Scharnhorst if its not in your top five crawfish?
SCHARNHORST, KONGO, REPULSE, ALASKA, RICHELIEU...my 6-10

Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:30 am
by Bgile
lwd wrote:In some cases but the ACW moniters for instance usualy carried the same size gun.
Sure, but that predates the whole era of the battleship. I realize they qualify by my definition, and I suppose they do represent the first use of center line turrets although those were the only guns they had.

Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 1:35 pm
by neil hilton
I don't know how anybody can think Iowa is pretty, not with that bow. Repulses bow however is very pretty.
The Kongos are well proprotioned too overall.

Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:27 pm
by Karl Heidenreich
Well, these are some photos of the some Battleships (models at 1:350) which made some points on which is the most beautiful.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/alb ... 333&ref=pb

Bismarck, Hood and Repulse fit the bill for me.

Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:56 am
by Kyler
Karl, you don't seem like the facebook type

Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:40 am
by Karl Heidenreich
Kyler;
Karl, you don't seem like the facebook type
Weill, I do what I can to be as friendly as can be, life is short anyway. I know that according to mkenny I'm the devil and Genda says no one is uglier than me (maybe because he did his assesment before mkenny appeared). However, I will like to know what do I look to you?

Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:48 am
by Kyler
I would not say your the devil, you just have a habit of being annoying from time to time like you last post about Jutland

The best way to put it, sometimes you mute button is broken

Re: Most Beautiful Dreadnought

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:04 pm
by Karl Heidenreich
:silenced: