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Re: Obama´s mosque

Post by frontkampfer » Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:30 pm

Heard this refrain too many times. People are just too unintelligent to vote the right way, the Europeans have the best blah, blah, blah, tax the rich. I'll tell you what I want. I want a government that protects the nation and the borders, enforces ALL the laws equally, keeps its hands out of my wallet and leaves me the hell alone. If I can have that then I'll worry about providing for myself and my family!
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Post by RF » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:42 am

Bgile wrote: The top few percent of wealthy individuals make more money as a percent of the total than any such group since the days of the Robber Barons. It's in their interest to drive wages down to the level of third world countries, and they have pretty much managed to kill the labor unions. It goes on and on. I don't hold out much hope for the future, and I expect to end my days destitute, in a small room somewhere.
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Post by Herr Nilsson » Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:46 am

frontkampfer wrote:I want a government that protects the nation and the borders, enforces ALL the laws equally, keeps its hands out of my wallet and leaves me the hell alone.
This is a contradiction in terms.
RF wrote:
Bgile wrote: The top few percent of wealthy individuals make more money as a percent of the total than any such group since the days of the Robber Barons. It's in their interest to drive wages down to the level of third world countries, and they have pretty much managed to kill the labor unions. It goes on and on. I don't hold out much hope for the future, and I expect to end my days destitute, in a small room somewhere.
Shades of Marx and Engels here........
...or just reality.
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Post by Dave Saxton » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:32 pm

Bgile wrote:... This country is controlled by the very rich, and they often manage to convince the electorate to vote against their best interests by scaring them with half truths and lately outright lies. They've even managed to get enough of their justices on the Supreme Court to make it possible for corporations to buy elections. It's not likely to change in the forseeable future, and will probably get worse. The top few percent of wealthy individuals make more money as a percent of the total than any such group since the days of the Robber Barons. It's in their interest to drive wages down to the level of third world countries, and they have pretty much managed to kill the labor unions. It goes on and on. I don't hold out much hope for the future, and I expect to end my days destitute, in a small room somewhere.

Wow I had no idea that you had such a skewed view point. The reality of the situation is that labor unions are stronger than ever, particularly the public employee unions such SEIU and the NEA. I know because I have been involved in these unions. They always want more, more, more, more to the point that have bankrupted the states like Ca. And its still not enough. Even if taxes were at 90% levels it would not address the situation. If all the wealth from the top were confiscated it would not make a dent, but then there would be no capital to create real economic growth and good jobs. If redistrubution and command economies were a better alternative to free market capitalism, then North Korea would be better off than South Korea, East Germany would have thrived in comparison to West Germany, Red China would have a higher standard of living than Taiwain, Venezuela would be doing better than Brazil, and Cuba would be a better place live than West Africa. Gov controlled redistribution is not the answer. It will make everybody but the elites equally poor. And there will still be fat cat elites just like in China.

The nation is 13 trillion in debt. Everything Obama has done has only made the situation accutelty worse. But the Socialists don't mind unsustainable spending and debt. This is part of a known plan drawn up socialist leaders of the DSA such as Michael Harrington and Peter Drier to force the collapse of the economic system leaving no alternative but Marxism-they think. It is a dangerous and largely secret combination of public sector unions, wall street, and corrupt socialist Gov that feeds on its self. Socialst politicians funnel massive amounts of funding into the welfare state and public unions, which in turn work to elect ever more left leaning politicians, and wall street makes a killing through the collections of fees from buying and selling the debt. And so does Red China. Meanwhile, the Fed is printing money like the Weimar Republic. This will eventually cause massive inflation which will hurt you more than anything, by devaluing your hard earned assets and pensions, and insurance coverage. But it will aleviate the massive morgage debt/crisis (created by Obama types by forcing banks to make high risk morgage loans, BTW), over time, because the debt will not grow with the high inflation. Our money, incomes, and savings, and insurance contracts, will all be virtually worthless as the result.

You son should work for the Big Mac instead, because they provide full health care for their full time employees-at least until recently because Obamacare is forcing them to give this up. More people, especially retired folks, are losing coverage as a result of Obamacare. I don't have any health coverage at all. When I blew out my knee I went to the best Orthopedic available and agreed to pay him in installments. He did a good job and his total fee was far less than it would have been through insurance. He made more money himself too. Health Insurance premiums would cost me way too much of my rather inconsistent income, but if I could afford it I would buy some. The mandate is to force people like me to spend what is left over on buying insurance instead of on other things I may want or need. It is a offensive curtailment of my freedom. It's just another form of gov sponsored larceny and will not solve the problem or even provide me with practical coverage.

What we the people wanted was to make health insurance affordable, but this Gov take over does not do that at all. Indeed since its passage, costs have soured instead. The way to drive down the costs of anything is by free market competition. Private companies should be allowed to compete for my bussiness. Obamacare has the opposite effect, but will bankrupt the nation instead.
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Re: Obama´s mosque

Post by RF » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:28 pm

Just twenty four months to go then before the US voter can apply the breaks and elect somebody else.

Problem at the moment is that we don't know how good (or bad) that somebody else will be. A Reagan or a Gingrich?
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Post by Karl Heidenreich » Mon May 16, 2011 7:33 pm

Just found this article, by a spanish writter, and thought it will do a lot of good in this thread:
ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ

The following is a copy of an article written by Spanish writer Sebastian Vilar Rodriguez and published in a Spanish newspaper on Jan. 15, 2008. It doesn't take much imagination to extrapolate the message to the rest of Europe - and possibly to the rest of the world.

REMEMBER AS YOU READ -- IT WAS IN A SPANISH PAPER
Date: Tue. 15 January 2008 14:30

ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez

I walked down the street in Barcelona , and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz ... We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.

The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.

And under the pretence of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.

Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.

And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.

We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.

What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe ...

The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000; that is ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz

Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1990 - Elias James Corey
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1999 - Ahmed Zewai

Economics:
(zero)

Physics:
(zero)

Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad

TOTAL: 7 SEVEN

The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000; that is FOURTEEN MILLION or about 0.02% of the world's population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
1996- Lu RoseIacovino
TOTAL: 129!

The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims. The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew who has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew who protests by killing people.

The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

Muslims must ask 'what can they do for humankind' before they demand that humankind respects them.

Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel's part, the following two sentences really say it all:

'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel." Benjamin Netanyahu

General Eisenhower Warned Us It is a matter of history that when the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead.

He did this because he said in words to this effect:

'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

Recently, the UK debated whether to remove The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it 'offends' the Muslim population which claims it never occurred. It is not removed as yet. However, this is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it.

It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended. This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the, 6 million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians, and 1,900 Catholic priests who were 'murdered, raped, burned, starved, beaten, experimented on and humiliated' while the German people looked the other way.

Now, more than ever, with Iran, among others, claiming the Holocaust to be 'a myth,' it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.

This e-mail is intended to reach 400 million people. Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world.

How many years will it be before the attack on the World Trade Center 'NEVER HAPPENED' because it offends some Muslim in the United States?
An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
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Post by lwd » Mon May 16, 2011 9:03 pm

Started out to quibble a bit but that's such an impressive piece all I'll say is. Wow.

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Post by RF » Tue May 17, 2011 7:53 am

It would seem Mr Rodrigez hasn't heard of the Irgun or of the Stern Gang and their terrorist crimes and murders in Palestine, including the blowing up of the King David Hotel, the death toll therefrom including Jews.
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Post by RF » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:34 pm

So - Rick Perry for US President anyone?
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Post by Karl Heidenreich » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:15 pm

Anyone but muslim!
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Post by frontkampfer » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:16 am

I'm for Perry! I think he has the best chance of beating barry.
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Post by Dave Saxton » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:25 am

I don't know enough about Perry at this point, but at this point its a "why not". Just about anybody has got to be better than barry or similar. We need a real good conservative at this point to bring us back from the brink... barry has been a total disaster in just about everyway. Four more years we can't afford.
Anyone but muslim!
I don't care about the persons faith (gender or race either) (or a doubt), as long as they are not of the "islamofascist" or similar variety. Most people that are Muslim are good peaceful people, just trying to worship God according to dictates or their own conscience. The real fanatics are the minority- at least so far. Isn't it usually the same/only God for all of us regardless?
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Post by frontkampfer » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:52 am

The Nation can not endure another four years of the present mistake. I saw this train wreck coming before it left the station in 08 but the "how worse could he be than who we have now" view was afoot. Well, the answer is a lot worse! Even barry said, "elections have consequences" and for probably the only time in his life he told the truth. Based on what he has done and what he's threatened to do, there is no reason why Perry should not wind up with at least 350 electoral votes. End the Madness!
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Post by Karl Heidenreich » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:40 pm

To the American members of this forum:

From what I have heard the election race for this November which was originally very favorable to the islamic president Osama, sorry Obama, is now quite tight. Are there any real chances for the people of the US to recover their country?

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Post by frontkampfer » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:20 am

obama is in trouble and its the economy that will cost him. People realize that things should be better but their not. He was elected to fix the economy and he did not deliver. Instead, we got barry care and it looks like it will be ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. If that happens and the economy sinks further he'll be helping jimmy carter build houses for Habitat for Humanity - IMHO
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