Hello everybody,
thanks again to Herr Nilsson for posting his drawings.
Herr Nilsson wrote (
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8756&start=150#p85365), my underlined: "In my opinion a PG=270° and BS=220°combination isn't impossible and I think it is fair to take it into account. Certainly
it doesn't eliminate other solutions.
I had written (
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8756&start=150#p85351): "His assumption is that the mount is 50° oriented to the right, but, as I said,
there are several other geometrical possible orientation of the same mount, depending on the photographer exact POV on PG decks"
Exactly. No definitive conclusion can be drawn from the photo itself re the courses of the ships, but
a complete reconstruction must be built around in case someone wants to claim that BS and PG courses are at 90°...
A complete reconstruction is however already available since 2005, accepted and published by everybody in the world, perfectly matching and timing the "flash effect photo" just after 06:08 (
download/file.php?id=3593,
download/file.php?id=3603), immediately after PG has passed to the BS starboard side.
Wadinga wrote: "Unfortunately the revised version which Herr Nilsson has kindly devoted the time to preparing, does not show Bismarck aligned correctly with the muzzle barrel plane"
Just because they are not exactly aligned, but only "
very approximately" aligned, as already said (
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8756&start=135#p85343), in this specific "solution" from Herr Nilsson. Wanting to exactly align them to BS (I don't see why...), it is enough to change very slightly the training of the mount (clockwise) and to move the photographer slightly to the left....
As said, other solutions are possible, changing the photographer position, the mount training, the PG exact
course and the exact
distance of BS from the photographer (the fantasy "
Dungert attribution" has already been discussed...
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8756&start=135#p85343) at that time....
Summarizing, in no way a 90° angle between BS and PG can be definitely proven by the photo, while 220° and 270° courses are well possible, thanks to Herr Nilsson patient explanations/drawings...
Bye, Alberto
P.S.
Wadinga wrote: "I was not aware this magazine was open to the elements on the upper deck and not buried below the waterline like the shell magazines. Kapt Brinkmann must have been acutely aware he had 12 loaded warheads in launch tubes on his upper deck plus this equally-poorly protected magazine, whilst under heavy calibre shellfire. "
Being target of 15" and 14" shells, without any immunity in any case, IMO it was much, much better to have torpedoes stowed in an open space on deck, where the (anyway quite unlikely) detonation of a warhead can vent itself in the air, than to have them on a bridge under the weather deck or (even worse), under the waterline...