Bismarck Paint storage

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Re: Bismarck Paint storage

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Ten cubic metres sounds fair , because although paint is heavier than water , it comes in cylindrical round tins of course and then you would have the "thinners" for washing the brushes "Kettles" to put it in to work from , the brushes , various other gear = maybe a store room double that in size ? = two metres wide , two high X five long ? Getting the stuff aboard and down there would be quite an exercise in itself , down all those hatchways .
Shows you just how much time sailors spend just heaving stuff about . :oops:
If this room is down near the prop shafts , isnt it under an armoured deck too ?
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Kept in a location under the armor and where it can be flooded as necessary. Makes sense for that time period. On modern carriers, I know it is kept aft on the hangar deck with the rest of the HAZMAT, where it can be shoved overboard if necessary.
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I've checked the weight list again an found a second weight. I didn't see it before, because all these weight lists are in Suetterlin script, which is almost unreadable for people born after the war:

There is also 3.4 t of inflammable paint!

Inflammable paints were:
Schiffsbodenfarbe (underwater hull paint)
Wasserlinienfarbe (boot-topping paint)
Tarnfarbe, petrolfest (camouflage paint, petrol restistant)
Zellenfarbe, Bilgen (Reserve Ölbunker) (paint for reserve oil tanks)
Deckfarbe für innen und außen (superstructure, upperworks and interior paint)
Teerfirnis (I think it's asphalt varnish)

The 9.53 t are the consumables of the so called "Malerhellegat". Consumables ("Verbrauchsstoffe") should be only paints in that context, because brushes etc. are defined as equipment ("Gerät"). On the other hand, because all "Deckfarben für innen und außen" are already accounted in the 3.4 t and, because I still haven't found any other weight of equipment for painting purposes, I consider it possible that at least a part of the equipment is weighted as consumable. :think:
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Teerfirnis (I think it's asphalt varnish)
.....or tar varnish as used for watersealing wood.

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Yes, it could be black tar varnish. "Teerfirnis" was used as underwater hull paint of the older T-boats and minesweepers. It was also used as paint inside coal bunkers.
It's not Bitumen. Bitumen is listed separately.
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Marc, do you have more information regarding the petrol-proof camouflage paint at hand? I only know this type of paint when it comes to submarines but what on earth could be painted with it on a surface ship?

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It might possibly have been used for the spotting planes and/or the ships motor launches and boats?

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No, Olaf, I don't have. I don't know, if petrol-proof paint was aboard. I mentioned it for the sake of completeness.

Thomas, I don't think it was used for the motor launches. I think Olaf will agree. I consider it possible that a RLM petrol-proof paint was used for the spotting planes, but not the petrol-proof paint of the navy. There were only three different colors of the navy petrol-proof paint: "schlickgrau", "blaugrau" and "blauschwarz".
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ah, thanks for clearing that up.

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