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bonjour people.... this would be my personal top tens... II. The Six Most Beautiful WWII Battleships & Battlecruisers (descending order): 1. Scharnhorst Class 2. Hood Class 3. Bismarck Class 4. Littorio Class 5. Repulse Class 6. South Dakota Class The ugliest Battleship of all time: 1. HMS Rodne...

hey sorry for not reading the whole thread... but i think to assess the most important single event in the naval history of the Kriegsmarine, you have to clearly make perimetres. is it the success? is it the significance? i think the sinking of HMS Hood by Bismarck is the most well known. U-47 is si...

hey...
i agree...
and i think u mean the USS. Arizona...
which was made into a memorial at Pearl...

i could be wrong as i think the USS Utha was also made into one...but i think the Arizona is the famous one...


adios
miro

hey.... yes, thats wat i meant.... thats why it would have been much better for Graf Spee to be heading to argentinia.... anyhow, we cannot change history now... and afterwards everyone knows better than the person who did the mistake.... so lets stop judging Langstorff and leave it like that.... ad...

hey...
ok....yet...lets say a British ship would have been in some sort of similar situation...
i have my great doubts, that Uruguay would have send the British ship out to sea, unfinished...


adios
miro

ps: its my german point of view...sry

hey... yes the war at land was surely won by the production force, especially in the soviet union....(100-1 tank ratio) yet on the seas...the power was unbalanced for the Germans Fleet Command was expecting the war much later... it would have been very interesting to see, how the war would have turn...

hey....
yes good point...
and yes, we will never know....
it is actually really depressing to read about how the submarine war turned literally 180 degrees in favor of the British

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miro

hey....
yes but wat if there are renown AND repulse....
then the British would have an advantage....



adios
miro

hey....
very interesting posts....

to the first point i can just say...
as i read that Hood and PoW were strictly prohibited to send radio messages....

yet i know understand why the cruiser was not suppose to engage...
adios
miro

hey....
as i think u are interested in Hilfkreuzer n all....
how would u assess the success of the surface riders (including armed cruisers, and pocketbattleships) in WW1 compared to WW 2???


which ships were outstanding?
i do believe Penguin had the highest tonnage sinking??

adios
miro

hey...
if that is really true...
then hahaha that is funny....
hmm shooting at their own allies....
tstststs

adios
miro

hey.... yes it is a sad thing that the Graf Spee did sink... and i cannot understand the unfairness of the Uruguaian government... but that happens to neutral states... except switzerland, i believe all so called neutral states, actually did favor one or the other government (axis or allies) sweden ...

hey....
u all know about the French Surcouf class...
what if they improved and developed the sub even more...
so her hull would be resistend to shells and her guns would be improved to 11 in...
wouldnt that be a diving BB??
haha

adios
miro

hey....
what do u mean by that?

adios
miro

hey.... no, that wouldn't be a nice thing... to drive over the last remains of such a proud battleship... in which so many people died.... ships that sink, should always be kept where they sank... ships in museums and all....they are just in the wrong place... they should be in the water....where th...