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- Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:40 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Tirpitz and Graf Zeppelin 1941
- Replies: 335
- Views: 64776
Re: Tirpitz and Graf Zeppelin 1941
In 1934 Germany had no tanks at all. How do you build a doctrine out of nothing with nothing. The argument about no doctrine for carriers is equally absurd. They would develope a doctrine the way the always did.They would make it up as they went along.The first order to build an German aircraft Car...
- Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:49 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Tirpitz and Graf Zeppelin 1941
- Replies: 335
- Views: 64776
Re: Tirpitz and Graf Zeppelin 1941
How many decades of practice did the Germans have in fighter interception from a carrier platform? And in launching and recovering anti-ship strikes from a carrier? Pretty lame argument don't you think. One might as well ask…. How many decades of practice did the Germans have in tank attacks or def...
- Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:52 am
- Forum: World War II
- Topic: Strategic bombing during World War II
- Replies: 127
- Views: 58032
Re: Strategic bombing during World War II
I think I read somewhere that Bomber Commands CEP was on average 20 miles. Anyone know what the German CEP during the BoB was? I don't think the 2 would be directly comparable - the Luftwaffe had a comparatively short flight and easy navigation job as most of the targets were near the coast or a sh...
- Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:58 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Richelieu vs. South Dakota
- Replies: 78
- Views: 23908
Re: Richelieu vs. South Dak
The problems to cause excessive dispersion of french 38cm quad mounts cannot be reduced to missing delay coils. Even with them added, the data´s proposed in Dumas book suggest that the dispersion is on the poor side in comparsion. Nowhere did I claim that the design could be made perfect - what I d...
- Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:25 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Richelieu vs. South Dakota
- Replies: 78
- Views: 23908
Re: Richelieu vs. South Dak
Richelieu is a special case and any hypothetical scenario involving her must ask the question is she being considered as she was during the war or as she might have been had France not fallen . Case and point the "excessive dispersion" - while it's true that late war her pattern was on the...
- Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:44 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Richelieu vs. South Dakota
- Replies: 78
- Views: 23908
Re: Richelieu vs. South Dak
Anyway, we do have a "sort of" actual battle between Massachusetts (and aircraft) and Jean Bart and the damage inflicted on Jean Bart looks impressive - at least on the surface. Not sure if the damage pictured was caused by 500 lb bombs or 16-inch shells, but imagine this occuring at sea ...
- Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:49 pm
- Forum: World War II
- Topic: Strategic bombing during World War II
- Replies: 127
- Views: 58032
Re: Strategic bombing during World War II
I just finished reading Bomber Offensive, Sir Arthur Harris' memoirs - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1853673145/ref=cm_cr_rev_prod_title . Generally the focus is on the politics, production, and technology that moulded the bomber command offensive along with an analysis of the successes and failu...
- Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:50 am
- Forum: World War II
- Topic: Strategic bombing during World War II
- Replies: 127
- Views: 58032
Re: Strategic bombing during World War II
The total death-roll, "primarily women and children," was expected to reach 25,000; fewer than a hundred of the dead were servicemen. Of the dead recovered by then, 6,865 had been cremated in one of the city squares. A total of 35,000 people were listed as "missing". It's obvius...
- Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:16 am
- Forum: World War II
- Topic: Strategic bombing during World War II
- Replies: 127
- Views: 58032
Re: Strategic bombing during World War II
Where is this existing evidence that contradicts my pre concieved beliefs? Byron: Latest research, making use of records that had been sequestered in East Germany since the end of WW2, puts the Dresden death toll at about 25,000. The figure of 135,000 deaths was a Goebbels propaganda claim that was...
- Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:07 pm
- Forum: World War II
- Topic: Strategic bombing during World War II
- Replies: 127
- Views: 58032
Re: Strategic bombing during World War II
Sorry I wasted alot of time editing this because I like to be clear in my meaning and you posted a second post which, due to the overlap are best responded to together. Also for that reason you posts are quoted slightly out of order - not to twist your meaning, but to (hopefully) have a logically la...
- Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:40 pm
- Forum: World War II
- Topic: Strategic bombing during World War II
- Replies: 127
- Views: 58032
Re: Strategic bombing during World War II
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- Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:43 pm
- Forum: World War II
- Topic: Strategic bombing during World War II
- Replies: 127
- Views: 58032
Re: Strategic bombing during World War II
*sigh*Karl Heidenreich wrote:When you misquoted me in your answer you simply avoid this part of the paragraph. You stopped a sentence before making it sound as you wanted to sound.
- Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:53 pm
- Forum: World War II
- Topic: Strategic bombing during World War II
- Replies: 127
- Views: 58032
Re: Strategic bombing during World War II
...But the absence of an action that they weren't capable of to begin with is not in and of itself evidence of moral superiority. No one can argue with that. But as far as I am concerned, the allied air-borne genocide is a historical fact, whereas the possible germanic one is hypothetical. For me a...
- Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:43 am
- Forum: World War II
- Topic: Strategic bombing during World War II
- Replies: 127
- Views: 58032
Re: Strategic bombing during World War II
This is so misleading that needs to counter argument: And you and Karl keep bringing up the scale with what the Germans did in 1938/39/40 with what the RAF was able to accomplish in 1942/43/44/45. In the previous posts I thought I did already that. No you missed the point completely because you're ...
- Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:39 am
- Forum: World War II
- Topic: Strategic bombing during World War II
- Replies: 127
- Views: 58032
Re: Strategic bombing during World War II
This could be a little misleading because if you read the article it do NOT consider several other sources. I can quote them later today but from what can be gathered in a short term we have: Quoted: HOLOCAUST AT DRESDEN By George Fowler (from the Barnes Review) Blah blah blah... This is from the s...