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I do not have Trenkle's book, but he lists Hepke's study as a source of his work: I would be surprised if he denies a passive radar on BS. In regard of Trenkle's "Die deutschen Funkstörverfahren bis 1945" (including jamming and radar detection) "personal communication" [between ...

Hans,

where is the FuMB-antenna?

Panzerfaust1945 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:08 am NOT for the main battery guns! Have you ever even been inside a battleship turret, or barrette?

I personally visited BB60 USS Alabama in the 90ies...

The Germans used shell casings:

Actually we don't know anything about Bismarck's movements at all.

Well...the timing is very confusing anyway:

Did the radar sets on the British ships have a blind sector?

@hans zurbriggen Plural is plural. As a native speaker I personally would have never ever come to the conclusion that this plural "Geräte" means two or more radar sets. "Feind EM-2 Geräte" simply means the British have got radar. @wadinga Well...the infamous long signal was withh...

Hello Mr. Nilsson, you may: I'm Norwegian, I speak German thanks to my father (from Switzerland), but German is not my native language. Please feel free to correct me in case you have better translation. Lütjens message at 08:01 on may 24 is not in dubitative form, his estimation done regarding Ber...

@wadinga Lutjens would be making a perfectly reasonable assumption in asserting that the British vessels had radar, since his own ships had a device which could do what they were doing, identifying contacts' relative range and bearing through darkness, fog and snow. He has no need to imagine other w...

Regarding Bismarck's mistery, I do not think Lütjens would have sent 3 messages (13:26, 21:32 on may 24 and 09:12+ on may 25) stating that enemy actually had radar if Bismarck had not somehow detected them (based only on intelligence). Receiver could have already been same as Lützow, but antenna wa...

Hello Mr. Nilsson, imho, 'simpler' explanation why Lütjens came to different conclusions is Bismarck detected British emissions. Request from Gruppe West to report their frequencies confirms presence of radar detection equipment/skill on board. No similar request to Brinkmann. hans Prinz Eugen was ...

Brinkmann didn't consider the possibility of British radar at all. Lütjens and his staff came to another and much simpler conclusion.

Lütjens didn’t need any detector to come to this conclusion. Every move he made was reported within minutes.

What message?

Did she „feel“ radar emissions anyway?