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- Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:10 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
- Replies: 98
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Re: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
]Lets transpose again. No one would rationally argue the Scharnhorst could swap places with Renown and attack two Renowns in the same way the Renown attacked two Scharnhorsts. The issue is simple, 14inch shells of the DoY brought Scharnhorst to destruction, the 15 inch shells of the Bismarck would ...
- Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:31 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
- Replies: 98
- Views: 43340
Re: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
Provided that they can match her range. Could these BCs match Scharnhorst's range at the same or faster speed. If not, then their use as raiders might not be as good. Plus, Scharnhorst carried more guns. Smaller yes, but you dont need 14-15 inch guns to sink merchant ships. Range for a raider is ver...
- Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:23 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
- Replies: 98
- Views: 43340
Re: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
Facts are being rationally considered. The Scharnhorst had no confidence in engaging ships armed with 15 inch guns. Ships in General were hard to sink especially by gunfire unless they exploded. Scharnhorst according to the reports I have read blew up and then sank the explosion hastening the end w...
- Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:31 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
- Replies: 98
- Views: 43340
Re: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
Exactly in the real world 14 inch and 15 inch shells could cripple the Scharnhorst that's why they did not fight. You our absolutely correct the Scharnhorst was a greyhound and a fine ship but she was no match for a battleships guns. Like I said against the Bismarck she could blow up just like Hood...
- Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:01 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
- Replies: 98
- Views: 43340
Re: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
Against the Glorious of course XD But in seriousness, the reason why they didn't engage BBs was that Hitler and the navy didn't want them to engage in battle they will take massive damage. Plus, her 11inch shells are inadequet to pierce the armour of a BB at realisitc ranges. Her advantage compare t...
- Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:15 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
- Replies: 98
- Views: 43340
Re: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
Towns don't move, and as a long range raider the Courageous was unsurpassed. Like I said the Germans would have broke youtr arm off to have her and would have heralded the convoy system and the dimunation of the Grand Fleet a lot earlier. Light cruisers the Germans had even quick ones like Bremse b...
- Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:19 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
- Replies: 98
- Views: 43340
Re: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
Umm, two problems with that; 1) The Courageous class had only 4 guns. That isnt a lot of firepower to bare onto the enemy. And it will mean that getting shots at extreme ranges will be quite difficult. And since this tactic requires long range engagements, chances are you wont be hitting a small tar...
- Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:22 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
- Replies: 98
- Views: 43340
Re: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
As for the much maligned Glourious, like I say its the fastest hull ever put on a capital ship, it was simply a work of art. Nope I'm not going to trade shots with you I can outrun your destroyers your cruiser screen and you. Um, then what is the point of the Courageous if you have to outrun the cr...
- Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:27 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
- Replies: 98
- Views: 43340
Re: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
Scharnhorst and Alaska's small gun caliber (for BBs anyway), while considered a massive disadvantage, I would rate as one of their advantages. Small enough to have a good rate of fire that can sorta keep up with other CAs, yet large enough to make mince meat of most CAs, if not all. There were many...
- Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:20 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
- Replies: 98
- Views: 43340
Re: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
The age old problem here is the definition of what a battlecruiser is and what specifically is the role of these ships. My own inclinination is a vessel not specifically designed to engage battleships but a vessel designed to smash groups of opposing heavy and light cruisers, rather like a destroye...
- Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:23 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
- Replies: 98
- Views: 43340
Re: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
Pretty easy one that, The Hood would have beaten every other battlecruiser on a one on one , operate in any weather and only Alaska , Dunkerque's and Scharnhorst's were faster. As for blowing up it least it got in a position to blow up and if your poorly handled by your Admiral you can't really get...
- Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:45 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
- Replies: 98
- Views: 43340
Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
We all have heard of battlecruisers. Britian's Hood, Repulse, Invincible, German's Von Der Tann, Lutzow, Hindenburg and Japan's Kongo just to name a few. My question is: which one of these battlecruisers are the best for WW1 and which one was best in WW2. List the ships name and reasons why you have...
- Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:06 am
- Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
- Topic: Was the Blücher really such a bad design?
- Replies: 21
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Re: Was the Blücher really such a bad design?
My guess is that she would've still been sunk, but would've taken more damage and inflict serious damage to the British Battlecruisers. Ultimately however, she would've lost. But that was what battlecruisers were for: hunting and sinking enemy cruisers. Blucher as an armoured cruiser was very good, ...
- Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:44 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: HMS Ajax v HMAS Sydney
- Replies: 1
- Views: 4858
Re: HMS Ajax v HMAS Sydney
My guess is that Sydney has some advantages, but nothing that gives it a decisive edge IMO. Honestly, this battle could go either way for both ships.
- Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:32 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Fleet action with capital ships
- Replies: 10
- Views: 6764
Re: Fleet action with capital ships
Or just add the Yamatos. That should even it out a little.