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hey.... i agree with all your points... and yes...Bismarck did win over Hood... yet...i have heard in several books that the Scharnhorst was considered more successful than the short termed Bismarck...(by the German High Command) Besides, the Germans couldnt fight fair................. I do think th...

hey.... yes its a good point.... but if u look at the development of anti U-boot weapons after 1942, u quickly see that even aces like Prien would have been powerless... his tally would not have improved too much... Germany took a too bbig task to handle... so many things could have been done better...

hey
so your point is that...
the Germans would have not taken control of the medditeranean?


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miro

hey.... nice post there.... but i don't really understand one thing.... why would a cruiser pull out? wats the use? if there is a situation 1 BB vs 2 BBs.... and then the cruiser pulls out... the chances of the BB getting sunk is higher than if the cruiser is helpin... if the BB would be sunk, then ...

all those do matter....


but then why would the Hood let a close encounter happen?
if she can finish Scharnhorst off from long range...
there would be no need for Hood to close in...


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miro

hey...
in actual fact....
the British won a sea battle before that....
in the start of the 100years war...
i can't remember the name though...
but they did win with a fleet of merchant ships against a well armed French fleet...


and btw...Hood did NOT win over BS....

ha!

exactly...my point!


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hey...
but why would PE ever even THINK about doing so??


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miro

Hey....
are u sure about that?
I read a first preson report by Cap. Eyssen about the journey of Komet.

and he did NOT state anything about the failure of the operation in terms of that plant being Japanese...


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miro

hey....

i don't understand...
what point are u making?

isn't going into Scapa Flow and sinking one of the enemies BBs an act of bravery in front of the enemy?


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miro

Nazism is simply sad

hey...

i agree with Thor having some great battles...

DS would be no.1 too....


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miro

hey... na na na... i dissagree... Scharnhorst had a great life... she was more successful than any other capital surface ship of the KM.... she sank her tonnage and her endfight. come on...in a snowstorm, with two battle groups surrounding you....left with confusing orders from your base, fighting f...

hey

yes...but it was Graf Spee who saved her those month...

or was it another ship?
Graf Spee detached a cruiser from his squadron, cuz he knew he will lose this battle...


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miro

Hey...

actually this battle could go either way...

the forces are pretty much equal.

Scharnhorst:
better protection

Renown:
better speed

the guns, depending on how we arm the twins...is similiar as well...


how about the twins against renown in clear conditions?
would they then win?

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miro