No, but the were fighting against overwhelming odds! And still kicked the Russkies arse (in Brewsters) for quite some time.Steve Crandell wrote:The Finns were not fighting Zeros.
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- Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:39 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Force Z
- Replies: 68
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Re: Force Z
- Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:36 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Force Z
- Replies: 68
- Views: 10507
Re: Force Z
How do you spell O-V-E-R C-L-A-I-M-I-N-G? Honestly, I haven't look at Finnish claims but exaggeration seems par for the course for most AFs. You spell it like this - " Facts don't cease to exist just because they are ignored " or maybe even " The highest form of ignorance is when som...
- Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:49 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Force Z
- Replies: 68
- Views: 10507
Re: Force Z
Given the Brewsters woeful reputation with the Allies, how does one explain its - dare I say - rather exemplary performance record in the hands of the Finns circa the same time frame then? If it was such a bad aircraft, then it could only have been their - the Finns - 'sisu'! (For those not familiar...
- Sat Nov 08, 2014 1:35 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Force Z
- Replies: 68
- Views: 10507
Re: Force Z
Hi Dm, Will be interested on your take when finished. I read it within a week or so of its publication and was rather underwhelmed, although I did learn a few new things about 'Tom Thumb', who I (did and still) think has been harshly judged by history and various 'armchair admirals' (although Philli...
- Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:12 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Force Z
- Replies: 68
- Views: 10507
Re: Force Z
Given the 'theme' of this thread I wonder if anyone here has yet read the recently published (a few months ago in UK) book Scapegoat. The Death of Prince of Wales and Repulse by Martin Stephens?
- Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:13 am
- Forum: Naval History in General
- Topic: PoW & Repulse Wrecks
- Replies: 2
- Views: 9645
Re: PoW & Repulse
The link in previous post seems to be dead. Try these. The actual survey report; http://www.explorers.org/flag_reports/Flag_118_-_Kevin_Denlay_-_Update.pdf The latest update to the analysis of the survey report (of particular interest are the new photos on pages 70 through 74); http://www.rina.org.u...
- Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:25 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Radars of Force Z
- Replies: 27
- Views: 7479
Re: Radars of Force Z
Kevin, one last thing if you don't mind. Do you know what ships were in Ozawa's and Kurita's forces ? I have : - Ozawa : Chokai and Sagiri - Kurita : Sentai 7 (Mogami, Mikuma, Suzuya, Kumano), Kinu (meets at 1907) and Suiraisentai 3 (Sendai + DesDiv 19 : URANAMI, SHIKINAMI, AYANAMI, ISONAMI) But I ...
- Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:29 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Radars of Force Z
- Replies: 27
- Views: 7479
Re: Radars of Force Z
And, more from Marder;
- Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:27 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Radars of Force Z
- Replies: 27
- Views: 7479
Re: Radars of Force Z
Hi Francis,
Not quite, but close. More from Marder.
Not quite, but close. More from Marder.
- Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:06 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Radars of Force Z
- Replies: 27
- Views: 7479
Re: Radars of Force Z
My memory, although far from perfect is, occasionally, spot on. :D The following is Capt Bells ‘statement’ from Marder's book. That is, from ‘ Old friends, New Enemies. The Royal Navy and the Japanese Navy. Strategic Illusions 1936 -1941 ’ by Prof. Arthur Marder, page 431/432.(The footnote re Capt B...
- Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:02 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Radars of Force Z
- Replies: 27
- Views: 7479
Re: Radars of Force Z
When Kondo’s battle fleet (mistakenly illuminated by a flair from Japanese torpedo bombers) was sighted in the mist just after darkness, at only ten miles, on Dec 9th, the radar officer was just shutting down the 281 for the night. That should be 5 miles not 10 miles. Hi Dave, With all due respect,...
- Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:55 am
- Forum: The Wreck of the Bismarck
- Topic: Marine Forensics Symposium 2012
- Replies: 0
- Views: 12785
Marine Forensics Symposium 2012
PRESS RELEASE First International Marine Forensics Symposium to Announce Ground-Breaking News in Underwater Exploration and Mark 100th Anniversary of Sinking of Titanic Symposium Papers Will Also Focus on Other Major Shipwrecks (inc., Bismarck, Hood, Prince of Wales, Lusitania, Monitor, Edmund Fitzg...
- Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:45 am
- Forum: Naval Technology
- Topic: "New" HMS Prince of Wales sinking analyzes
- Replies: 76
- Views: 16394
Re: "New" HMS Prince of Wales sinking analyzes
"These 3 torpedo hits were decisive because they negated all damage-control efforts to set a flooding boundary in the stern"." Re the above sentence from Death of a Battleship. As a co-author of the paper I would like to apologise for the unintentional ‘confusion’ this one incorrect ...
- Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:41 am
- Forum: Naval Weapons
- Topic: HMS Exeter's torpedoes
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1543
Re: HMS Exeter's torpedoes
Thanks chaps. The consensus elsewhere also seems to point to MkVII. The only info I have besides what’s on NavWar is from the book Naval Weapons of WWII by John Campbell. In that he states re the MkVII; “…..was carried by Australia, Canberra, the London and subsequent 8” (203cm) cruisers but was lat...
- Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:30 pm
- Forum: Naval Weapons
- Topic: HMS Exeter's torpedoes
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1543
HMS Exeter's torpedoes
Can anyone say with any authority what Mod (Mk ?) of torpedo Exeter was carrying when she was sunk in 42?
I know they were 21" and in two triple banks, but what 'Mk' were they?
TIA, Kevin
I know they were 21" and in two triple banks, but what 'Mk' were they?
TIA, Kevin