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My only comment would be [...] Bill Jurens The voice of reason weighs in..... The voice of reason (100% agreement) has fallen to the same trap as most of us here before: Entering a discussion with flat-earth scientists (see my definition below). All of Mr. Jurens' points are 100% true, and at the s...

Gentlemen, I have just had another look at Tarrent’s book on the KGV class ships and it appears that from the outset he was not particularly impressed with them in comparison with either Bismarck or Tirpitz particularly on a one on one fight. This is OT here, but Tarrant seems to have been overly i...

Hello everybody, now I think is possible to proceed with some analysis on the photos of the Bismarck taken after the NH 69727 ( taken at 06:05 and 30 seconds ). http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8335&start=30#p81231 When I wrote : Now my question to everybody is : how many ...

I a) Mr. Bonomi has postulated "A" as being correct. b) Nobody has postulated a suitable alternative. c) Mr. Bonomi's postulation, in Mr. Virtuani's words "...has to be considered correct." a) I postulate that, based on the measurements of the room temperature in my house, the i...

I propose to end the "discussion" on the DS battle map, which essentially is an ongoing clash of opinions without the possibility for any relevant outcome or conclusions of significance. Ending the discussion can only be achieved on a voluntary basis - e.g. not responding any more if the s...

Mr. Speaker, this is my opinion: I hope this will be a closure to a historically completely irrelevant and at the same time impossible exercise: The attempt to prove that a reconstruction of the ship tracks in the DS battle is possible with an accuracy of (1) better than 30 seconds in time, (2) bett...

If you can do better or prove what I did being incorrect, ... be my guest and go ahead, ... show us your competences. None of the two options above (do better or prove incorrectness) is possible. I'm happy to repeat: Because correctness (or accuracy) means you know the true story, and can measure y...

I mean it is the most correct re-construction so far existing of the Denmark Strait battle. No it is not, or more correctly stated, we can not know if it is correct. It is the most elaborate one, but there is no way to measure or qualify its "correctness". Why is there no way to do so? Be...

Paul L wrote: "we all knew we were fighting to save the empire and the wealth which would help us. Chants of fighting for FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY were salve for the masses to help them deal with the terror that was war." Of course Paul is right above: all nations in all times (including N...

This basically is how the scam works. There is very little that is made public on these models, possibly deliberately so that the methodology can't be looked at and challenged. The recent missive from the IGPCC is full of exhortation and bluster, with no real science to back it up. Another case of ...

Had Bismarck made it to France against all the above, Lutjens should have had his own "Trafalgar Square column" in Berlin (instead of the insinuations of " propagandists "). It's a (sad but logical) fact that history is always written by the winners and very few recognition go t...

Bill Jurens wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:43 am i.e. to comment as to whether they consider it "probable", "indeterminate", or "wrong".

Bill Jurens.

"Indeterminate"

or at least to fairly admit that Antonio's proposal has been fully confirmed as the only credible one (http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8335&start=360#p81978). Nothing has been "confirmed", and in particular there is no "fully confirmed credible proposal&quo...

"Nur die dümmsten Kälber wählen sich ihren Schlächter selber" (Only the dumbest cows of the flock are happy to elect their butcher). The final stage of destruction of the US society, started by unregulated capitalism with Reagan, can now be observed in real-time. On average, the US citizen...

Hi Mr.Jurens, you wrote: " One does not need to know what's true to establish what is probably, or at least possibly, false....." I (respectfully) totally disagree. Disagreeing with such a simple and fundamental statement, and calling it philosophical, compares with disagreeing to the fac...