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"Dave has apparently taken one performance by one British cruiser (Exeter) and used it to indicate all British cruisers for the entire war. He takes an unrealistic estimate by US authorities of what they thought US cruiser shooting was going to achieve , which was much better than anyone achie...

Dave has apparently taken one performance by one British cruiser (Exeter) and used it to indicate all British cruisers for the entire war. He takes an unrealistic estimate by US authorities of what they thought US cruiser shooting was going to achieve, which was much better than anyone achieved, and...

Steve I was only referring to a "temporary arrangement" in 1942/43-to redeploy the CA's who were (at that time) making a poor show at night fighting-I certainly never meant to imply that they were removed from the OOB period-my apologies if that is how you picked that point up. I don't di...

I believe there were one or more CAs in almost every battle involving USN cruisers. Certainly as late as Surigao Strait.

Is this statement TRUE or FALSE ??? At 11:30 am, two torpedoes launched from Grumman TBF Avenger torpedo-bombers struck Hiei. After suffering several more torpedo and dive-bomber attacks throughout the day, the order was given for her crew to abandon ship before her escorting destroyers scuttled he...

I understand that the US cruisers (CA) were withdrawn from the intense island night fighting- because their slow rate of fire, meant they were not up to the task. It was maintained that they were transferred to carrier escort duties which suited them better - but this was incorrect. The CA's were s...

I doubt the suspension of escorts had much impact, what with the war being over and all.

And now ...

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When a ship is hit by 20 torpedoes and sinks, that does not mean it would take 20 torpedoes to sink the ship. \ That is indeed true - however, as these were hits over time, not all at once, the Musahi had ample opportunity to sink between hits. I think she had taken around 15 by the last attack - a...

When a ship is hit by 20 torpedoes and sinks, that does not mean it would take 20 torpedoes to sink the ship.

There is a huge difference between 4 hits on the same side of the ship at the same time and a lot of hits on both sides over several hours. The eight foot depth would cause a lot less damage than a deeper running torpedo, but I suspect the eight foot setting was used because the submarine crew knew ...

I agree.

Maybe the Shinano should be thrown in this category too, sister of the Musahi that took roughly 18 torpedoes and 20 bombs before going down gets sunk by 3 torpedoes. Horrid damage control and a ship setting sail that was not really ready to go to sea was the issue. 4 Torpedoes, in quick succession ...

It's interesting that the prevailing view here is that putting hundreds of tons of armor up at flight deck level has no down side in the other characteristics of the ship other than maybe the number of aircraft carried and that is often argued, although I think the USN ships have larger flight decks...

Which Essex class CVs were sunk by bombs?

Which British CVs were sunk by torpedoes?