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by yellowtail3
Mon May 21, 2012 1:18 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Tirpitz shelling New York
Replies: 132
Views: 42602

Re: Tirpitz shelling New York

Sorry to jump in, But the 14/50 and 14/45 were unleashed over Yamashiro in Surigao Strait. They were not impressive, even against that old battleship. Tunny's "Battle of Surigao Strait" mentions some 20 minutes of manouvreing and fighting of the Japanese BB under heavy US gunfire. Superst...
by yellowtail3
Sun May 20, 2012 5:24 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Tirpitz shelling New York
Replies: 132
Views: 42602

Re: Tirpitz shelling New York

It is actually the same thing. NM matching up to TP is just as absurd. Except NJ is easier to defeat than TP. It doesn't matter how much more firepower to protection you have once the protection is no longer enough. And NM's protection like Fuso's is not enough . Nothing ever is against Bismarck or...
by yellowtail3
Sun May 20, 2012 2:28 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Tirpitz shelling New York
Replies: 132
Views: 42602

Re: Tirpitz shelling New York

Wouldn't this line of thinking mean also; that say the New Jersy was sent from an Alaskian fjord in to bombard Tokyo and the Fuso was able to intercept it that NJ would be lucky to be in good enough shape following the fracus to get back home. Lets see Fuso has 12x14". It was modernized during...
by yellowtail3
Sat May 19, 2012 7:54 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Stern chasing
Replies: 41
Views: 8123

Re: Stern chasing

Chasing down Prince of Wales? Could have been done, but risky risky risky. First, I expect that if PoW was really running, she could have gone at least as fast as Bismarck, probably faster. She'd have been making smoke, and so hard to see. I'm not looking at a map, but there were two friendly cruise...
by yellowtail3
Sat May 19, 2012 7:30 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Tirpitz shelling New York
Replies: 132
Views: 42602

Re: Tirpitz shelling New York

I agree they were good ships. BUt they were slow for the new war, their vertical armor was of WW1 vintage (20% less resistant than 1930s class A armor), and they still had dipersion problems . Dispersion problems for the New Mexicos, in 1941? You'll have to expand on that to convince me - do you ha...
by yellowtail3
Fri May 18, 2012 2:50 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck refuels and does repairs
Replies: 43
Views: 11559

Re: Bismarck refuels and does repairs

That would have been a lucky outcome. If they fixed the ship - including flooded boiler/generator compartments? - and got all fuel tanks plumbed and topped off with fuel... she's have had a few more options. There's still the tricky problem of getting back to France without getting scuppered by the ...
by yellowtail3
Thu May 17, 2012 10:37 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Tirpitz shelling New York
Replies: 132
Views: 42602

Re: Tirpitz shelling New York

New Mexico and her sister-ship Idaho performed shootings in the 30s and 40s, and the results weren't to good. Dispersion was high, rate of fire slow, and misfirings often. I've read some of that... but I don't know that they were all that substandard. On dispesion being high... Relative to what? Al...
by yellowtail3
Thu May 17, 2012 9:48 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck construction flaws
Replies: 397
Views: 284199

Re: Bismarck construction flaws

If the US was contracted to build the BIsmarck... well. Easiest would be, sell them a North Carolina - it'll have longer legs and do the job. They want faster, and they want the Bismarck's hull size/layout/armor setup? Okay... First off, trade out those four 15" twins for three 16" triples...
by yellowtail3
Thu May 17, 2012 1:45 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck construction flaws
Replies: 397
Views: 284199

Re: Bismarck construction flaws

As big as Bismarck was, you'd think they'd have used some of that tonnage for bigger guns. Wasn't 8x15" kind of... light, for 1940?
by yellowtail3
Sun May 06, 2012 5:47 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Tirpitz shelling New York
Replies: 132
Views: 42602

Re: Tirpitz shelling New York

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by yellowtail3
Sat May 05, 2012 5:30 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Tirpitz shelling New York
Replies: 132
Views: 42602

Re: Tirpitz shelling New York

It's more complicated than that... The numbers are right, but they don't mean what you think they mean... The guns were also WW1 productions, rebored in the 30s. They had much wider salvo patterns than the German SK38, lower rate of fire, and poorer fire control. .... In would probably be a similar...
by yellowtail3
Sat May 05, 2012 4:15 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Tirpitz shelling New York
Replies: 132
Views: 42602

Re: Tirpitz shelling New York

It's more complicated than that... The numbers are right, but they don't mean what you think they mean... The guns were also WW1 productions, rebored in the 30s. They had much wider salvo patterns than the German SK38, lower rate of fire, and poorer fire control. .... In would probably be a similar...
by yellowtail3
Sat May 05, 2012 1:55 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Tirpitz shelling New York
Replies: 132
Views: 42602

Re: Tirpitz shelling New York

Let's look at the IZ of each vs the opposing gun. TP's 15" can defeat the NM's belt and splinter shield all the way out to ~27,000 yards. NM's 14" can not defeat TP's scarp triangle at any range. oh, that magical scarp.. See as how NM's 14/50 (a potent bit of ordnance) can penetrate bette...
by yellowtail3
Thu May 03, 2012 9:54 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Tirpitz shelling New York
Replies: 132
Views: 42602

Re: Tirpitz shelling New York

Dave Saxton wrote:
But when it comes to guns and armor and FC equipment, no big advantage over the older but much-updated NM...
I disagree. TP holds some significant advantages in those three areas, especially in 1942.
How so?
by yellowtail3
Thu May 03, 2012 9:07 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Tirpitz shelling New York
Replies: 132
Views: 42602

Re: Tirpitz shelling New York

Just to be clear... I understand that TP is a much bigger ship, better subdivided, welded, definitely faster... Clearly superior there... But when it comes to guns and armor and FC equipment, no big advantage over the older but much-updated NM... In an encounter with one of the New Mexicos Tirpitz b...