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by Steve Crandell
Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:59 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Tribal class dd
Replies: 137
Views: 17657

Re: Tribal class dd

I've already explained why. WW2 technology was not yet able to overcome the inherent lags in servos, computers and other control mechanisms. If you have a system where the DCT layer/trainer merely have to keep their sights on the target, then the RPC mechanisms/computers/stable elements should prod...
by Steve Crandell
Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:23 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Tribal class dd
Replies: 137
Views: 17657

Re: Tribal class dd

Can you give me a link to the South Dakota AAR which said the 5" guns couldn't track accurately while she maneuvered? I know I've seen several accounts which said the main battery could, so that seems somewhat surprising to me. (...) According to your logic it was impossible to shoot down airc...
by Steve Crandell
Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:21 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Tribal class dd
Replies: 137
Views: 17657

Re: Tribal class dd

Manoeuvring was the rule while the bombs were falling, but not while the aircraft were approaching. Is that just your opinion? If South Dakota wasn't maneuvering until bombs were dropped, it seems to me that wouldn't be a huge problem for her AA. The fact that South Dakota had problems getting thei...
by Steve Crandell
Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:06 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Tribal class dd
Replies: 137
Views: 17657

Re: Tribal class dd

No WW2 warship that was manoeuvring radically (including battleships) could maintain an AA FC solution. Why do you think that? Why do you think the trend in medium DP guns was to increase the rate of elevation and traverse? I've read enough USN battleship, cruiser and destroyer action reports to kn...
by Steve Crandell
Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:55 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Tribal class dd
Replies: 137
Views: 17657

Re: Tribal class dd

dunmunro wrote: No WW2 warship that was manoeuvring radically (including battleships) could maintain an AA FC solution.
Why do you think that?

Why do you think the trend in medium DP guns was to increase the rate of elevation and traverse?
by Steve Crandell
Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:29 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Tribal class dd
Replies: 137
Views: 17657

Re: Tribal class dd

We are talking about two different classes of the destroyer, the Tribal class and the L class. The Abdiel class were fast minelayers with very little need for a dual purpose gun. You cannot trust anything Navweaps has to say about RN weapons. The Abdiel Class never carried 4.7in twin mounts and the...
by Steve Crandell
Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:42 am
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Tribal class dd
Replies: 137
Views: 17657

Re: Tribal class dd

I thought the 4" weapons were there because they were better AA weapons. I take it they weren't, and the only reason they were installed was because the RN screwed up their order for 4.7" guns and built more destroyers than gun mounts? I doubt they were better AA weapons than the 4.7in/50...
by Steve Crandell
Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:19 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Tribal class dd
Replies: 137
Views: 17657

Re: Tribal class dd

Unless it's vs. low flying aircraft such as torpedo bombers......they'd be pretty hard pressed to deal with anything else without that 4-inch twin. Wonder why only 1 mount was replaced... A couple of the later ships of the class had 8x4". Of course, the 4.5" DP eventually replaced the 4.7...
by Steve Crandell
Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:41 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Tribal class dd
Replies: 137
Views: 17657

Re: Tribal class dd

Unless it's vs. low flying aircraft such as torpedo bombers......they'd be pretty hard pressed to deal with anything else without that 4-inch twin. Wonder why only 1 mount was replaced... A couple of the later ships of the class had 8x4". Of course, the 4.5" DP eventually replaced the 4.7...
by Steve Crandell
Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:38 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Tribal class dd
Replies: 137
Views: 17657

Re: Tribal class dd

I presume you mean AA escorts. Of course they could, but their 4.7" guns were not the best for that purpose and they didn't have a lot of effective smaller AA weapons. As the war progressed some of the 4.7" guns were replaced by weapons more appropriate for AA defense. It depends on what p...
by Steve Crandell
Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:09 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: The Climate Change agenda
Replies: 268
Views: 117525

Re: The Climate Change agenda

Follow the money ..... B The money leads to the Koch brothers and their ilk ... the rest of the rapidly developing Oligarchy. Everything is being subsumed by the profit motive. Unions are dying, and I believe we are headed for an era that will make the Robber Barons look like philanthropists. Corpo...
by Steve Crandell
Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:23 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Graf Spee trying to escape back to Germany...
Replies: 158
Views: 60748

Re: Graf Spee trying to escape back to Germany...

Because of the Versaille treaty, Washington naval treaty and the anglo german naval treaty at 1935. The germans weren't allowed to the Washington naval treaty but were allowed to replace their old pre dreadnoughts, to the rules of the Versaille Treaty, which means 10000ts and no caliber rule. So wi...
by Steve Crandell
Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:08 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Graf Spee trying to escape back to Germany...
Replies: 158
Views: 60748

Re: Graf Spee trying to escape back to Germany...

I find myself wondering (not for the first time) why if this ship was so superior to a CA all of the other nations didn't emulate her, and why the German CAs were built, since they were obviously inferior.
by Steve Crandell
Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:24 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: The Climate Change agenda
Replies: 268
Views: 117525

Re: The Climate Change agenda

It really doesn't matter whether the "Climate Change agenda" is real or not. The amount of the real wealth in the world is increasingly being concentrated in the hands of a smaller and smaller percentage of the population. Discussions like this are irrelevant, because those people are lar...
by Steve Crandell
Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:16 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: The Climate Change agenda
Replies: 268
Views: 117525

Re: The Climate Change agenda

It really doesn't matter whether the "Climate Change agenda" is real or not. The amount of the real wealth in the world is increasingly being concentrated in the hands of a smaller and smaller percentage of the population. Discussions like this are irrelevant, because those people are larg...