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by Byron Angel
Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:26 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Denmark Strait: Half salvos vs full salvos
Replies: 13
Views: 4186

Re: Denmark Strait: Half salvos vs full salvos

@Byron “Schieber” [?] Deflection adjustment considering the future position of the target, and some other deflection corrections(drift, wind...) “Gang” [?] Deflection change ----------------------- enemy was completely hidden behind the splashes. “Indefatigable” seemed to cease fire and tried to ge...
by Byron Angel
Tue Sep 12, 2023 4:05 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Gun precision / dispersion
Replies: 129
Views: 79706

Re: Gun precision / dispersion

This is the document I prefer to go by - CB 4112 (4) (1942) HANDBOOK ON THE USE OF R.D.F. FOR GUNNERY PURPOSES TYPE 284 Admiralty Gunnery Branch, SW1 – Dated 19th July 1942. quote - RANGING CAPABILITIES 4. The results tabulated below show the average maximum usable ranges reported by the Commander-i...
by Byron Angel
Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:41 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Gun precision / dispersion
Replies: 129
Views: 79706

Re: Gun precision / dispersion

Hallo Byron, thank you. So it could actually be, that PoW never got any range other than from the small 15ft device and the estimation via block check cards. >>>>> If I'm interpreting McMullen's letter properly, he seems to say that even ranging by the 15-ft duplex rangefinder was intermittent. McM...
by Byron Angel
Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:25 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Gun precision / dispersion
Replies: 129
Views: 79706

Re: Gun precision / dispersion

McMullen's (Gunnery Officer - HMS Prince of Wales) letter to Ludovik Kennedy re Denmark Strait - Note - One can also access an IWM oral document featuring McMullen here: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/80010751 McMullen’s Letter The following text is an extract from a letter written b...
by Byron Angel
Sat Sep 09, 2023 9:52 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Gun precision / dispersion
Replies: 129
Views: 79706

Re: Gun precision / dispersion

Re USN Mk3/Mk4 FC radars, actual salvo spotting ranges varied according to caliber of gun battery being spotted. 5-inch approx 10’000 yds 6-inch approx 11-12,000 yds 8-inch approx 14,000 yds I need to find the reference documentation on my HDD. And good spotting was as much an art form as a technica...
by Byron Angel
Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:51 pm
Forum: The Age of Sail (1571-1860)
Topic: The Hold
Replies: 12
Views: 4614

Re: The Hold

As a side note. The bark Pamir sunk in a hurricane in 1957 while crossing the Atlantic, with a cargo of grain. The culprit could be a strike of the stevedores in Buenos Aires port, where she had loaded the cargo. Due to the strike, Army draftees were employed for the job, and it is suspected that t...
by Byron Angel
Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:22 pm
Forum: The Age of Sail (1571-1860)
Topic: The Hold
Replies: 12
Views: 4614

Re: The Hold

As a side note. The bark Pamir sunk in a hurricane in 1957 while crossing the Atlantic, with a cargo of grain. The culprit could be a strike of the stevedores in Buenos Aires port, where she had loaded the cargo. Due to the strike, Army draftees were employed for the job, and it is suspected that t...
by Byron Angel
Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:12 pm
Forum: The Age of Sail (1571-1860)
Topic: The Hold
Replies: 12
Views: 4614

Re: The Hold

Hah - This is Old Home Week for me! :dance: I worked fifteen years in the international ocean freight forwarding business - from the early days of containerization to bulk carriers, chemical tankers, Ro/Ro ships, old 'tween-deckers. liner service carriers and charter work. It was really interesting ...
by Byron Angel
Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:13 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Denmark Strait: Half salvos vs full salvos
Replies: 13
Views: 4186

Re: Denmark Strait: Half salvos vs full salvos

Ver interesting! Seem like they couldn't praise the 4+4 system enough. Do you know the practise in other navies? Hi AT, I am most familiar with the WW1 period. I'm also confining my comments to capital ships (battleships and battlecruisers for the sake of simplicity. The Royal Navy and the German N...
by Byron Angel
Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:17 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Denmark Strait: Half salvos vs full salvos
Replies: 13
Views: 4186

Re: Denmark Strait: Half salvos vs full salvos

Thanks, it makes sense. I looked at the film of Bismarck firing against Hood (taken from Prinz Eugen) over at YouTube, and it is pretty clear that she's firing Anton and Bruno first, shortly followed by Cesar and Dora, although the intervals seems to vary. So, if follow your terminology (one salvo ...
by Byron Angel
Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:46 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Denmark Strait: Half salvos vs full salvos
Replies: 13
Views: 4186

Re: Denmark Strait: Half salvos vs full salvos

Here is the excerpt from the Jutland account of Gunnery Officer Paschen of LUTZOW re AB + CD salvos and broadsides - Our rangefinders gave us good ranges commencing at 240 hm. and it seemed an eternity, actually it was twenty minutes, before we had reached our range of 190 hm. Even then we had to wa...
by Byron Angel
Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:20 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Denmark Strait: Half salvos vs full salvos
Replies: 13
Views: 4186

Re: Denmark Strait: Half salvos vs full salvos

For anyone interesed in a free PDF D/L of "The Fighting at Jutland" ...

Go here -
https://archive.org/details/fightingatj ... at+Jutland


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by Byron Angel
Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:13 pm
Forum: The Age of Sail (1571-1860)
Topic: Question on Marines
Replies: 3
Views: 1088

Re: Question on Marines

John Harland's "Seamanship in the Age of Sail" covers the duties of the Marines aboard ship in some detail. BTW, there was a distinct "professional hierarchy" among the crew. Experienced veteran seamen occupied a class well above that of the "common seamen"; they would ...
by Byron Angel
Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:04 pm
Forum: The Age of Sail (1571-1860)
Topic: Question on Marines
Replies: 3
Views: 1088

Re: Question on Marines

John Harland's "Seamanship in the Age of Sail" covers the duties of the Marines aboard ship in some detail.

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by Byron Angel
Sun Sep 03, 2023 6:58 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Denmark Strait: Half salvos vs full salvos
Replies: 13
Views: 4186

Re: Denmark Strait: Half salvos vs full salvos

A bit confused here. Bismarck fired 93 rounds at Denmark Strait, which would be 12 full salvos (with 3 misfirings) - 6 against Hood and 6 against PoW. She hit Hood first with her 3rd half salvo. Did she continue firing half salvos or full salvos after the hit? Hood blew up after the 5th salvo, whic...