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by Alberto Virtuani
Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:47 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Bismarck surrender option
Replies: 96
Views: 17519

Re: The Bismarck surrender option

Hello everybody, Wadinga wrote: ""It is the Baron, who knew Lutjens well enough, who expresses disappointment and indeed astonishment" It's more than natural that a young officer would have hoped for a word from his Admiral. However, his disappointment against Lindemann is much more e...
by Alberto Virtuani
Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:42 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Mr. Virtuani's Opinion
Replies: 4
Views: 3138

Re: Mr. Virtuani's Opinion

Hello everybody, of course I cannot accept such biased and unfair limitations (a kind of "cage" with a "word and post count"....), I will continue posting when and where I want and I still ask Mr.Rico an answer to my questions ( http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&a...
by Alberto Virtuani
Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:25 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Bismarck surrender option
Replies: 96
Views: 17519

Re: The Bismarck surrender option

Hello everybody, Wadinga wrote: " Perhaps in view of our long acquaintance " says the Baron of Admiral Lutjens" Acquaintance for having been on the same ship (as Captain and Midshipman) is not intimacy and the last one was required at least to have the Chief of the Fleet making confid...
by Alberto Virtuani
Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Bismarck surrender option
Replies: 96
Views: 17519

Re: The Bismarck surrender option

Hello everybody, Wadinga wrote: "Surely the point is clear , there was nothing to be gained for "the country's interest" in the May 27th slaughter....their Leader who had the power and freedom to accept reality and at least try to save them " Surely clear only to the author of th...
by Alberto Virtuani
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:34 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Bismarck surrender option
Replies: 96
Views: 17519

Re: The Bismarck surrender option

Hello everybody, Wadinga wrote "McMullen did hit Bismarck, but his minimal success at DS can in no way be compared with Schneider's" According to the only serious gunnery analysis published up to now on DS, the two gunnery performances were comparable. Santarini clearly says that, and I'm ...
by Alberto Virtuani
Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:51 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Bismarck surrender option
Replies: 96
Views: 17519

Re: The Bismarck surrender option

Hello everybody, Wadinga wrote: "Despite Bismarck's huge but ineffectual firepower she could not hit them or drive them out of contact. " ...and despite their attempt, they were not able, due to Bismarck's precise fire, to approach enough to hit with all the torpedoes expended... Thus this...
by Alberto Virtuani
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:54 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Bismarck surrender option
Replies: 96
Views: 17519

Re: The Bismarck surrender option

Hello everybody, not commenting on political statements that have nothing to do with this discussion , Wadinga wrote: "Lutjens was surely unaware of shrapnel injuries in the Tribals" Still Bismarck fire was not totally ineffectual (as incorrectly stated) and the fact that Vian's destroyers...
by Alberto Virtuani
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:38 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Alan Raven comment re PoW @ Denmark Strait
Replies: 4
Views: 1488

Re: Alan Raven comment re PoW @ Denmark Strait

Hello everybody,

if coming from McMullen (http://www.hmshood.com/history/denmarks ... letter.htm), A.Raven has mixed up the "director set" (Type 284, which McMullen clearly speaks about) with the Type 281 on the mast that according to nobody provided ranges.


Bye, Alberto
by Alberto Virtuani
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:09 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Bismarck surrender option
Replies: 96
Views: 17519

Re: The Bismarck surrender option

Hello everybody, Wadinga wrote: "Lutjens could have made the same decision as Nebogatov. " As explained (http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8725&p=84985&hilit=nebogatoff#p84985) and never addressed, Nebogatof took his decision when the war was lost already: no o...
by Alberto Virtuani
Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:47 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Bismarck surrender option
Replies: 96
Views: 17519

Re: The Bismarck surrender option

Hello everybody, Wadinga wrote: "The Commander is and has always been Master under God.....His decisions may indeed be judged later. This may not always be fair. " And he knows very well he will be almost always judged later, based on the report submitted after the action, against the disc...
by Alberto Virtuani
Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:36 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Bismarck surrender option
Replies: 96
Views: 17519

Re: The Bismarck surrender option

Hello everybody, I admit I'm a bit tired today and I make mistakes. I owe some excuses to HMSVF too, because my quotation was not coming from him.... However, Northcape wrote: "Wie der Schelm denkt, so ist er."http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8742&start=45#p85045 ...
by Alberto Virtuani
Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:03 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Bismarck surrender option
Replies: 96
Views: 17519

Re: The Bismarck surrender option

Hello everybody, [Off-topic and potentially inflammatory material commentary deleted. WJJ] Coming back to the topic, I agree with the content of all the other Mr.HMSVF's posts, especially with the conclusion regarding the millstone of the naval tradition: the tradition that is so difficult to be val...
by Alberto Virtuani
Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:39 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Bismarck surrender option
Replies: 96
Views: 17519

Re: The Bismarck surrender option

Hello everybody, Bill Jurens wrote: "Please read some of the previous posts. If you do so, you will note that it was primarily Wadinga's commentary that was deleted/modifed, not your own, and that he was the one who was cautioned, not yourself." I stand corrected and I beg pardon: for the ...
by Alberto Virtuani
Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:01 pm
Forum: Announcements, News and Updates
Topic: New Moderator
Replies: 30
Views: 23439

Re: New Moderator

@ Mr.Rico (and Mr.Rico only ), Bill Jurens (your Bismarck forum "moderator") has once again "censored" the post (http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8742&p=85042#p85040) where I was denouncing his side-taken approach and asking your intervention because he...
by Alberto Virtuani
Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:00 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Bismarck surrender option
Replies: 96
Views: 17519

Re: The Bismarck surrender option

Hello everybody, as my previous post has been censored and I have been cautioned once again ( me only , of course), I will re-post it including the sentence that concluded it, without any potentially inflammatory commentary inside (at least until a personal historical judgemet of RN officers behavio...