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- Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:50 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: How did so many survive?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 11869
Re: How did so many survive?
I forgot to say thanks, this is a great explanation. I wonder how long those trapped below deck survived for as the ship went down. Did they die of drowning, pressure, or suffocation? Most likely drowning for most, but maybe some were in watertight areas for quite some time? You're welcome. Glad yo...
- Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:25 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Cover up synopsis
- Replies: 623
- Views: 67113
Re: Cover up synopsis
In the preamble to his narrative, in explaining his reasons for disengaging, doesn't Leach state that he broke off the action "pending a more favourable opportunity"? Doesn't that indicate his intention that he was breaking off to "consolidate the position" i.e. get things back i...
- Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:00 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: War Grave question
- Replies: 14
- Views: 15991
Re: War Grave question
And the Exeter is gone as well....
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bri ... ailsignout
As RF said, their only shield is depth...
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bri ... ailsignout
As RF said, their only shield is depth...
- Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:13 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
- Replies: 521
- Views: 76803
Re: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
It just appeared illogical for Holland to ask PoW to search directly aft and astern with the rdf equipment that was mounted furthest forward and for which task it was impossible for it to have done. It seemed to be doing Holland a disservice as he was a very experienced officer and if we can spot t...
- Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:15 am
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
- Replies: 521
- Views: 76803
Re: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
Thanks Paul but that just confuses things more as Leach claims that PoW 284 could not bear beyond 070°. The 284 was mounted on the fore director which would mean that the director could train to a compass bearing of 020° ie directly aft as the ship was sailing to 070° or off her port quarter but no...
- Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:42 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
- Replies: 521
- Views: 76803
Re: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
This then meant I couldn't understand the rdf order as if PoW was alongside Hood on her port side Hood herself would have masked PoW rdf from 020°-140°. That's why I wondered if PoW was on Hoods port quarter meaning the 090° was a compass bearing? ( oh dear my brain hurts) Hi Cag, Once the turn to ...
- Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:14 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
- Replies: 521
- Views: 76803
Re: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
Hi Alberto thanks if PoW was stationed on the compass bearing 090° on a course of 285° the bearing 090° from Hoods point of view would be off Hoods starboard quarter would it not? On Rowell's map he states Hood was stationed on a bearing of 260° throughout the action ie Hood was on a compass bearin...
- Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:12 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
- Replies: 521
- Views: 76803
Re: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
Hi Alberto, I see what you're saying, and you may be right. Here's an interesting entry from PoW's log: 0353: 28 knots 0450: Took over guide. 0505: "Hood" resumed guide. Full speed. (my bold) This may be where Hood pushed to 29 knots and PoW had to pull out all the stops to keep up with he...
- Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:30 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
- Replies: 521
- Views: 76803
Re: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
Hi all, @Alberto: The reason I suggested Hood would have to cross astern of PoW was that crossing ahead with such a short distance between the two could be risky, especially at 28 knots. The separation of the two ships would decrease as Hood moved across, risking collision... which Hood already had ...
- Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:03 am
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
- Replies: 521
- Views: 76803
Re: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
Is anybody able to explain what should have been the maneuver in this timeframe ? Hi Alberto, I think I figured that out when we were discussing Antonio's track chart for the 160 degree turn to the south west at 0203. It was by Blue Pendant with PoW initially bearing 90 deg from Hood - i.e. on her ...
- Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:51 am
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
- Replies: 521
- Views: 76803
Re: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
Hi Antonio, First up, I know, very happily, that you and Alberto are both in northern Italy and so are personally unaffected by the terrible earthquakes that have rocked Italy, but still, just a word of sympathy for the loss off life and property. Wishing Italy all the best for the recovery effort. ...
- Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:32 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
- Replies: 521
- Views: 76803
Re: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
Hi Antonio, I see your latest track chart, but there is a "complication" you haven't taken into account - the spread of the destroyer screen ahead of the battlecruisers. How far ahead were they? How far apart were they spread? If visibility issues made PoW unable to determine if they all r...
- Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:52 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
- Replies: 521
- Views: 76803
Re: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
Because if an order like this was repeated after the turn of the battlecruisers as it seems clear to me based on Ltnt Cdr T.J. Cain account, ... it can only mean that somebody was still following the main warships after the turn SW on 200° course and there was the need to tell him to " stay be...
- Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:13 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
- Replies: 521
- Views: 76803
Re: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
Hi Antonio, That second diagram would not, to me, represent a Blue Pendant turn, since the ships would make the same turn simultaneously. Therefore, PoW would end up on Hood's port side, slightly aft of her beam after a 160 degree turn to port. It seems that they stayed that way until 0450 when PoW ...
- Sat Oct 29, 2016 1:39 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
- Replies: 521
- Views: 76803
Re: May 23/24 night shadowing and interception approach CS1/BC1
Course was altered by blue pendant to 200 degrees at 0203, B.C.1 then ordered "Prince of Wales" to search with type 284 ... What type of turn is the one with " Blue Pendant " from 360° to 200°, ... so 160° to port ? "Blue Pendant" means "alter course together"...