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Hello everybody, of course and Colin McMullen was firing ( please just look at the PoW gunnery plot Bismarck course track ) exactly at a ship ( Bismarck ) that was following the Prinz Eugen ( as showed on her correct track map ) and by Schmitz-Westerholt print ( both there outside looking at this b...

Hello everybody, there has been long time ago a wide consensus ( apart Robert Winklareth and Vic Dale ) on the battle main parameters re-construction using both sides well know data. At that time we had only the German tracks ( in particular the Bismarck one ) to be correctly re-constructed and sho...

I'd actually take all records with a grain of salt mainly because these are battle conditions; humans are prone to extreme stress during such conditions and minute details, like the exact time aren't of relevance at the time. I singled out question 42 as I found it very interesting, PoW's records m...

Its wort pointing out that both classes of British battleships and designed after Jutland suffered from turret issues due to over complicated interlocks (Not including Vanguard as the turrets, though reworked, were nonetheless based on a pre Jutland design Nelson and Rodney had some real issues with...

. The simple answer is "yes". The Admiralty considered a KGV capable of taking on the Tirpitz. Their pre-war ideas ALWAYS envisaged having more ships versus a foe, it was based on the advantages of "concentration" to achieve overwhelming victories. So two "fast battleships&...

Apologies for naivety (in advance)

But are the photographs timed?

An observation. This battle took place before automation of loading was achieved in the likes of the US "Des Moines" class (which were post war 8 inch cruisers). From some of the figures provided previously there is a drop off in efficiency in firing as an action progresses. This is unders...

Hi Dunmunro Having just listened to the first and second reels (very interesting) McMullen in the first reel repeatedly uses the word "vast" in regard to the problems with the turrets which were "untried" and that the first 2 suffered "vast mechanical teething troubles"...

Byron Angel wrote: ↑Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:34 pm Alberto & Antonio - As much as it pains me to say this, your comical attempts to slather the lipstick on PoW's gunnery performance at Denmark Strait = total crap.

I have lost all respect for you both.

B

Byron,

Have a cup of char. All will seem better!


Best wishes


HMSVF

A question about McMullens statement "the guns are ok"... Do you think its possible that he was talking about himself and the rest of the gunnery team in the director? Ive read several accounts of Royal Navy actions and operations plus also the more mundane day to day stuff. And I'm sure t...

"As a matter of interest, how long was the Prinz Eugen film showing the Battle of The Denmark Strait. Ive just watched something portraying to be the film online which was quite short and shaky (with a shot of HMS Hoods funeral pyre in between). The actual on film time showing Bismarck firing ...

For what it is worth, having studied this particular subject for years, I have always felt that POW's gunnery during Denmark Strait was indeed rather poor. In the USN, anybody who fired as many ranging salvos without crossing the target would have been heavily criticized. After getting on for line,...

As a matter of interest, how long was the Prinz Eugen film showing the Battle of The Denmark Strait. Ive just watched something portraying to be the film online which was quite short and shaky (with a shot of HMS Hoods funeral pyre in between). The actual on film time showing Bismarck firing probabl...

Hi Again, Just an after thought, in fact the RN were pulling in heavy units from all over the place, besides Ark Royal and her torpedo carrying Swordfish, after KGV and Rodney had withdrawn even an old 'R' class, QE, or Renown could have finished her off. Hi Paul, I suspect that Ark Royal would hav...

Agree, She wasn't going anywhere once her rudders were shot. HMS Ark Royal was still on hand if required and if KGV and Rodney did have to go the RN would have found something else from somewhere. HMS Rodney, despite her desperate need for a refit was still a tough old boot. That she suffered self i...