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- Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:02 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
Hello Antonio, I read carefully At this time we were turning to port between the "Hood" and the enemy and I observed debris falling towards "Prince of Wales", Are you saying Leach saw Hood explode, PoW turned to starboard to avoid the wreck, Bismarck switched targets, there was 2...
- Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:17 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
Hello Alberto, Three witnesses say it happened- but they must all be wrong. :shock: Why? Because a man who was pierced through the face seconds later by a chunk of wood, and stunned by a near death experience, drew a map the following day and didn't include it? As he also didn't include the turn on ...
- Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:24 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
Hi Alberto, Thanks for clearing up the confusion, yes Marc has done an excellent job. In my opinion it clarifies that the Rowell map is just the crude salvo map with a guesstimated curvy bit inserted. This had to reflect his evidence We put the wheel over to starboard to give us a greater clearance ...
- Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:21 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
Hi Alberto, I believe we are at cross purposes. The two maps I am referring to that are different are Rowell's map and the PoW Gunnery map- in which the course is ruler-straight right through to 01:30. These two come from the same vessel and yet are not consistent. The gunnery salvo representation o...
- Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:49 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
Hi Antonio, First off please could you post the whole of the Norfolk log for the interesting period, not just two lines to highlight another Wake-Walker inconsistency? :pray: We know the Gunnery Map is flawed, since the fire control table took a direct input from the gyrocompass, and the turn to avo...
- Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:05 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
Gentlemen, What this forecast by a dumb computer fails to take account of, yet is clearly obvious here, as it was to the Torpedo Officer back in 1941, was that PoW was imminently about change course, radically, to port, and there was no point in wasting torpedoes at this moment, because this margina...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:02 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
Hello Alberto, I'm utterly astonished to hear that you agree with Antonio that his new map is better than the previous two scenarios. Who'd have thought it! :D You say it's IMHO more accurate than the Violet and the Green ones. because it agrees with (the only that match with evidences from both sid...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:37 am
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
For Steve Crandell, Steve, Antonio's latest map is 8:57 on Sunday 9th March and the map with GREEN and VIOLET scenarios on Sunday February 9th. For Antonio, It is enough to place it in there at 276 from PG ( 05.35 ) and 230 from Hood ( 06.00 ). The 18 from PoW at 05.35 will come out in any case as a...
- Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:47 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
Hi Steve, Well it's only verbally quoted as 22,000 yds for Antonio's latest iteration, but if there were a scale I suspect that we would find it is just a little more. :cool: I don't see why the range would be a lot less than on VIOLET given that the bearing from Hood to Norfolk is 230 the same as V...
- Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:42 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
Hello Antonio, Where does the 018 degree value come from on your new version of Norfolk’s track? When you created GREEN’s origin before, you used the intercept of it and 271. You know it is faulty because it is a derived, not measured, bearing from two inaccurate Estimated Positions (Norfolk's and P...
- Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:10 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
Hello Antonio, Yes you have stated to me that VIOLET is wrong, several times, but surely it is "wrong" only because it does not support your Conspiracy theory :cool: From your 6th March posting and place it in there bearing 276 to PG at 05.41 and 230 to Hood at 06.00 . from your VIOLET cre...
- Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:50 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
Hi Alecsandros, Since David Mearns' expedition, we know Hood had her rudder turned to port. Was she also "withdrawing"? It was Hollands' intention to turn to port to parallel Lutjens' course having achieved decisive range. The signal instructing Leach to turn was hoisted. Brooke says PoW s...
- Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:53 am
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
- Replies: 1950
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
Hello Antonio, Can you reserve some time to answer my observations on your latest preferred parameters for determining Norfolk's position which appear to support your VIOLET track and not your GREEN one and therefore negate the whole drive of this thread WRT Wake-Walker..... Whatever Lutjens reporte...
- Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:31 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
- Replies: 1950
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
All,
Who says Germans have no sense of humour?
All the best
wadinga
Who says Germans have no sense of humour?
All the best
wadinga
- Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:09 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
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Re: Denmark Strait and RN Articles of War
Hello Antonio, Yes that was an unfortunate double post. :oops: You have said Once you have 230 bearing to Hood at 06.00, the EAST is defined. The NORTH is defined by 276 to PG at 05.41. Now you have a LINE and the 2 points ( the crossing intersection between the Norfolk track and those line bearings...