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- Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:36 pm
- Forum: Naval Technology
- Topic: What was the real ROF advantage of triple turrets in WW1?
- Replies: 4
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Re: What was the real ROF advantage of triple turrets in WW1
Interesting! Thanks for the reply. The Austrians apparently had a firing doctrine firing one gun per turret per salvo in the Tegetthof class (Friedman: Naval Weapons of WW1). That would be uncomplicated given that all turrets in the ship were triple turrets. What about ships with mixed double and tr...
- Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:51 pm
- Forum: Naval Technology
- Topic: What was the real ROF advantage of triple turrets in WW1?
- Replies: 4
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What was the real ROF advantage of triple turrets in WW1?
Considering that most WW1 navies had a normal fire doctrine for ships with double turrets ships of firing one gun per turret while the other gun was loading, what was the real advantage of triple turrets? As far as I have been able to determine, at least the Austrian Navy fired one gun of each tripl...
- Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:36 am
- Forum: Naval History in General
- Topic: The Greatest Naval Battle in History
- Replies: 257
- Views: 277876
Re: The Greatest Naval Battle in History
I agree on the risk of revolution increasing on a longer war, maybe a successful revolution in 1906 and the Czarist regime overthrown? But Germany declaring war on Russia? I am not so sure, Germany was neutral but the Kaiser was kind of egging the Russians on, I have gotten the impression they would...
- Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:11 am
- Forum: Naval History in General
- Topic: The Greatest Naval Battle in History
- Replies: 257
- Views: 277876
Re: The Greatest Naval Battle in History
I would say it is hard to imagine Jutland being anything more than a draw. Naval engagements in WW1 were usually indecisive. I think Tsushima is underestimated. Tsushima: * Was a decisive battle, where one side was utterly crushed. * Determined the outcome of the RJW, thus setting the stage for the ...
- Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:27 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
- Replies: 119
- Views: 23749
Re: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
And don't forget - Britain mobilised a large army, a large air force and maintained a growing navy. Britain had a completely different ratio between the branches of service compared to Germany. The British army was the smallest branch, while the German army was always preeminent. If using the terms...
- Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:35 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
- Replies: 119
- Views: 23749
Re: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
This I think is a rather harsh verdict. Bismarck on its own was only just caught, and it took a large force of ships to do it. The weakness of Bismarck is that it was one ship operating alone. Combined forces of the type envisaged in a more sensible, watered down version of the Z Plan which could h...
- Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:33 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
- Replies: 119
- Views: 23749
Re: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
Good point about the ammo supply! BTW standard outfit for WW2 German ships was 1/3 each of HE, SAP and AP, and AFAIK this was not changed depending on mission parameters. Edit: And I would hardly call it defensless if AP ammo ran out, even if it of course would be preferable against heavy ships. The...
- Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:54 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
- Replies: 119
- Views: 23749
Re: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
True, 15" shells give a greater shell weight, but shell weight is not everything. For example, the engagement between the Renown and the S&G is often put forward as an example why 11 in ships were inferior to 15 in ships. But when you examine the engagement, you discover that the crucial hi...
- Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:12 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
- Replies: 119
- Views: 23749
Re: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
I do not think so. 3 x 15"-guned battleships would destroy any R-class rather quickly. Also, U-boat would have been helped by the destruciton of the convoys Ds and corvettes by the surface raiders. I am not sure 6 x 15" guns will be all that much more advantageous than 9 x 11" guns a...
- Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:15 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
- Replies: 119
- Views: 23749
Re: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
Well, the S&G didn't dare atack well escorted convoys even when together. And I think the risks of attacking a convoy with say an R-class battleship would have seemed too great even with three German battleships. The problem for the raiders is that a damaged ship might well be a lost one, so you...
- Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:20 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
- Replies: 119
- Views: 23749
Re: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
Not to be a spoilsport, but a successful raider should avoid enemy warships and attack the convoys. For that 11 in gunned ships available immediately would be much better than 15 in gunned ones in a couple of years. And while three ships operating together might seem grand, three ships operating ind...
- Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:04 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Risk Theory Pays Off
- Replies: 15
- Views: 4581
Re: Risk Theory Pays Off
Interesting scenario! But why not have the Prinz Eitel Friedrich instead of the Erzatz Yorck? She was further along in construction I think... BTW This is a bit OT but I have always speculated in the names the EZ-class would have gotten if they had been completed. Going by the practice of reusing th...
- Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:17 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Risk Theory Pays Off
- Replies: 15
- Views: 4581
Re: Risk Theory Pays Off
I am guessing Scarborough? I think that was the one. I apologize again for my extreme disorganization and temporary inability to back up my theoretical Risk Theory Payoff with the proper sources. It should also be said that on the way back from the raid, the German BCs almost got caught by a major ...
- Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:48 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Risk Theory Pays Off
- Replies: 15
- Views: 4581
Re: Risk Theory Pays Off
....., but I know for a fact that one of the German battle cruiser raids did indeed draw out a portion of the British Battle Fleet, which came close to being overwhelmed. So the Royal Navy came within a hair's breadth of losing a major portion of its strength at one blow. Which raid was this? When ...
- Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:56 am
- Forum: Movies, Films, Documentaries and Games
- Topic: Steam and Iron
- Replies: 1
- Views: 8859