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by Ersatz Yorck
Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:36 pm
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: What was the real ROF advantage of triple turrets in WW1?
Replies: 4
Views: 5709

Re: What was the real ROF advantage of triple turrets in WW1

Interesting! Thanks for the reply. The Austrians apparently had a firing doctrine firing one gun per turret per salvo in the Tegetthof class (Friedman: Naval Weapons of WW1). That would be uncomplicated given that all turrets in the ship were triple turrets. What about ships with mixed double and tr...
by Ersatz Yorck
Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:51 pm
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: What was the real ROF advantage of triple turrets in WW1?
Replies: 4
Views: 5709

What was the real ROF advantage of triple turrets in WW1?

Considering that most WW1 navies had a normal fire doctrine for ships with double turrets ships of firing one gun per turret while the other gun was loading, what was the real advantage of triple turrets? As far as I have been able to determine, at least the Austrian Navy fired one gun of each tripl...
by Ersatz Yorck
Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:36 am
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: The Greatest Naval Battle in History
Replies: 257
Views: 277876

Re: The Greatest Naval Battle in History

I agree on the risk of revolution increasing on a longer war, maybe a successful revolution in 1906 and the Czarist regime overthrown? But Germany declaring war on Russia? I am not so sure, Germany was neutral but the Kaiser was kind of egging the Russians on, I have gotten the impression they would...
by Ersatz Yorck
Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:11 am
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: The Greatest Naval Battle in History
Replies: 257
Views: 277876

Re: The Greatest Naval Battle in History

I would say it is hard to imagine Jutland being anything more than a draw. Naval engagements in WW1 were usually indecisive. I think Tsushima is underestimated. Tsushima: * Was a decisive battle, where one side was utterly crushed. * Determined the outcome of the RJW, thus setting the stage for the ...
by Ersatz Yorck
Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:27 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
Replies: 119
Views: 23749

Re: 3 German battleships in May 1941.

And don't forget - Britain mobilised a large army, a large air force and maintained a growing navy. Britain had a completely different ratio between the branches of service compared to Germany. The British army was the smallest branch, while the German army was always preeminent. If using the terms...
by Ersatz Yorck
Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:35 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
Replies: 119
Views: 23749

Re: 3 German battleships in May 1941.

This I think is a rather harsh verdict. Bismarck on its own was only just caught, and it took a large force of ships to do it. The weakness of Bismarck is that it was one ship operating alone. Combined forces of the type envisaged in a more sensible, watered down version of the Z Plan which could h...
by Ersatz Yorck
Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:33 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
Replies: 119
Views: 23749

Re: 3 German battleships in May 1941.

Good point about the ammo supply! BTW standard outfit for WW2 German ships was 1/3 each of HE, SAP and AP, and AFAIK this was not changed depending on mission parameters. Edit: And I would hardly call it defensless if AP ammo ran out, even if it of course would be preferable against heavy ships. The...
by Ersatz Yorck
Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:54 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
Replies: 119
Views: 23749

Re: 3 German battleships in May 1941.

True, 15" shells give a greater shell weight, but shell weight is not everything. For example, the engagement between the Renown and the S&G is often put forward as an example why 11 in ships were inferior to 15 in ships. But when you examine the engagement, you discover that the crucial hi...
by Ersatz Yorck
Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:12 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
Replies: 119
Views: 23749

Re: 3 German battleships in May 1941.

I do not think so. 3 x 15"-guned battleships would destroy any R-class rather quickly. Also, U-boat would have been helped by the destruciton of the convoys Ds and corvettes by the surface raiders. I am not sure 6 x 15" guns will be all that much more advantageous than 9 x 11" guns a...
by Ersatz Yorck
Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:15 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
Replies: 119
Views: 23749

Re: 3 German battleships in May 1941.

Well, the S&G didn't dare atack well escorted convoys even when together. And I think the risks of attacking a convoy with say an R-class battleship would have seemed too great even with three German battleships. The problem for the raiders is that a damaged ship might well be a lost one, so you...
by Ersatz Yorck
Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:20 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: 3 German battleships in May 1941.
Replies: 119
Views: 23749

Re: 3 German battleships in May 1941.

Not to be a spoilsport, but a successful raider should avoid enemy warships and attack the convoys. For that 11 in gunned ships available immediately would be much better than 15 in gunned ones in a couple of years. And while three ships operating together might seem grand, three ships operating ind...
by Ersatz Yorck
Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:04 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Risk Theory Pays Off
Replies: 15
Views: 4581

Re: Risk Theory Pays Off

Interesting scenario! But why not have the Prinz Eitel Friedrich instead of the Erzatz Yorck? She was further along in construction I think... BTW This is a bit OT but I have always speculated in the names the EZ-class would have gotten if they had been completed. Going by the practice of reusing th...
by Ersatz Yorck
Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:17 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Risk Theory Pays Off
Replies: 15
Views: 4581

Re: Risk Theory Pays Off

I am guessing Scarborough? I think that was the one. I apologize again for my extreme disorganization and temporary inability to back up my theoretical Risk Theory Payoff with the proper sources. It should also be said that on the way back from the raid, the German BCs almost got caught by a major ...
by Ersatz Yorck
Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:48 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Risk Theory Pays Off
Replies: 15
Views: 4581

Re: Risk Theory Pays Off

....., but I know for a fact that one of the German battle cruiser raids did indeed draw out a portion of the British Battle Fleet, which came close to being overwhelmed. So the Royal Navy came within a hair's breadth of losing a major portion of its strength at one blow. Which raid was this? When ...