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by hans zurbriggen
Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:02 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr. Jurens: I see your considerations. However, willing to reconstruct a battle, we must use what we have. Even if NH69722 photo has been heavily cropped (to be demonstrated anyway as there are several versions available), than initial distance is even more than 2500 meters, surely not les...
by hans zurbriggen
Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:35 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr. Jurens writing: 'I'd be interested in knowing how the distance to Bismarck at 'battle start' (Photo NH69722) was actually derived ': thanks for the explanations. There is good summary at link http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=482&hilit=NH69722&start=45#p3718 with dista...
by hans zurbriggen
Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:07 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, I agree with Mr. Angel for formation distance. However Bismarck was quite more far (c 2500 meters) at battle start (photo NH69722). Having already concluded her turn at film start, I suspect a higher distance, 'reduced' by the use of the 75 mm telelens. To Mr. Nilsson: are you aware which kin...
by hans zurbriggen
Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:48 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr. Jurens writing: 'the standard motion picture 35mm frame was essentially 24.9 mm by 18.7 mm in size' many, many thanks Mr. Jurens for this info. I was wrong in my previous calculations assuming size was the same as photographic one (c 35 mm x 24 mm). However I have not understood the wh...
by hans zurbriggen
Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:47 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, many thanks, Mr. Nilsson. Assuming the image in the film is not cropped, etc., I wonder whether Mr. Jurens can help to determine how distant is Bismarck from Prinz Eugen in the film using the 3 different objectives on a 35 mm film. To me 75 mm (not anyway a great telelens) was used, for diffe...
by hans zurbriggen
Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:23 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, thanks to Mr. Nilsson for the photo. I agree it could have been used without tripod at sea (if photo is not once again a 'propaganda' for Propaganda Kompanie), even at risk to be shaken by guns and to loose the camera. Possibly is my lack of 'sea foot' that makes me thinking it would be bette...
by hans zurbriggen
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:51 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to HMSVF writing: 'A man holding a camera may well have better stabilisation than somebody using a tripod.' Possibly correct for pitch and roll when stopped. Not for gun shaking and shock wave with violent ship turns. The photo of Scharnhorst shows that even in exercise during gun firing (150...
by hans zurbriggen
Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:58 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr.Wadinga: The boat in image 1 is stopped (no wake behind it). Can we see the result of such a movie? I think not a high quality. If the camera was actually operated at all in image 1. Image seems a bit a 'propaganda' for Propaganda. Surely not taken during an action or exercise. In the i...
by hans zurbriggen
Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:01 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr. Nilsson writing: 'I found some very nice pictures of the Arriflex without tripod:' thanks for the images. In all of them cameraman is leaning, kneeling or sitting, never walking around during a gun action. No clear image can be obviously taken when walking with the ship rolling, pitchi...
by hans zurbriggen
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:52 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr. Wadinga writing: ' the Gefechtskizze was pronounced "useless and worthless" upon receipt by V-A Schmundt ' Schmundt : 'The position of "Prinz Eugen" in relation to "Prince of Wales" cannot be derived from the battle sketch. It is useless and worthless. ' Statement is clear. Schnumdt do...
by hans zurbriggen
Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:20 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello Mr. Nilsson, good question. I have got the image from a friend who claimed it was Cerberus operation (painting appears to be right one). I suspect it is not from the Operation itself. I am unaware of Scharnhorst having fired her port side 15 cm during Febraury 12 actions. Are you aware of any ...
by hans zurbriggen
Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:27 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr. Wadinga writing: 'This shows Bismarck in some detail and shows the full side of her forward turrets with her armament firing very close to port beam in my estimation, Ie her target is in a similar orientation to PG's handrails' I agree with first part of sentence above. Conclusion is b...
by hans zurbriggen
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:32 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello to Mr. Nilsson writing: 'I would be very grateful, if you could show me a picture of a camera on a tripod used on a Kriegsmarine warship at high speed with ship rolling, pitching and turning hard. ' Scharnhorst in navigation, rolling, pitching and in action (admittedly, not evident if she is t...
by hans zurbriggen
Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:12 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello Mr. Nilsson,
I meant hand managed camera in navigation, at high speed with ship rolling, pitching, turning hard and shaking due to gun fire. I have only seen tripod mounted camera when operated.

hans
by hans zurbriggen
Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:32 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 18432

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr.Nilsson writing: 'Do you have any evidence that a tripod was used at all and that this tripod was bolted to the main deck?' I have images of tripod camera, never seen it hand managed. To me too bulky equipment to be managed in action with ship shaking hard without tripod. Do you have an...