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by Steve Crandell
Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:17 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Admiral Hipper class vs contemporaries
Replies: 15
Views: 1142

Re: Admiral Hipper class vs contemporaries

They were simply bigger ships. And yes, they had 60 cal vs 50 cal guns. I believe USN observers were impressed with their accuracy in post war tests.

I think the Baltimore class were more in their league than New Orleans.
by Steve Crandell
Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:26 pm
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: Who won?
Replies: 33
Views: 2356

Re: Who won?

Except that dive bombers at least, the bomb is travelling much slower than a 16" shell. And level bombers against a moving ship don't have much chance to get a hit, especially dropping only one very heavy bomb.
by Steve Crandell
Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:21 am
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: Who won?
Replies: 33
Views: 2356

Re: Who won?

I believe it was fairly common for US fast battleships to perform gunnery practice at ranges over 30Kyds. Do you have impact patterns of 9 gun salvos at this distance? I believe there is a formula based on known average gun dispersion for the weapons in question in the Jurens/Fischer series, but I ...
by Steve Crandell
Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:07 pm
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: Broadsides
Replies: 3
Views: 177

Re: Broadsides

US doctrine was to fire full salvos because that generated a more accurate mpi on late war radar displays.
by Steve Crandell
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:42 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: RN USN and IJN ships
Replies: 8
Views: 899

Re: RN USN and IJN ships

marcelo_malara wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:30 pm
No US BB developed more than 40.000 hp before the North Carolina class, most not even 30.000 hp, that´s why they were so slow.

Regards
By way of comparison, the Cleveland class CLs had about 100,000 shp.
by Steve Crandell
Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:16 pm
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: Who won?
Replies: 33
Views: 2356

Re: Who won?

I believe it was fairly common for US fast battleships to perform gunnery practice at ranges over 30Kyds.
by Steve Crandell
Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:56 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: RN USN and IJN ships
Replies: 8
Views: 899

Re: RN USN and IJN ships

I think the 16" ships were clearly superior to the others. Having said that, in theory the British and Japanese could choose not to fight the US ships. Other than that, I don't think there is much to choose between the different BBs. They could all defeat their opposite numbers. When you get BB size...
by Steve Crandell
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:35 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: RN USN and IJN ships
Replies: 8
Views: 899

Re: RN USN and IJN ships

USN BBs were significantly slower than the others, and I think a bit more heavily armored.

The Nelsons were in a class by themselves, being newer than the others you listed. Not sure what that means in combat potential. They were obviously quite different ships.
by Steve Crandell
Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:04 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Vanguard vs. Iowa?
Replies: 28
Views: 10638

Re: Vanguard vs. Iowa?

Hi Wadinga, You can have accurate bearings on any target and still have an end on target be a more difficult target. Why is that mutually exclusive? When you have a target that is 30,000 yds away, there is very little "shadow" to consider, because of the angle of descent. This is especially true of ...
by Steve Crandell
Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:49 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Vanguard vs. Iowa?
Replies: 28
Views: 10638

Re: Vanguard vs. Iowa?

Wadinga: I believe you misinterpreted the results on one of your charts. It's actually more difficult to hit an end on target because a dispersion pattern is an elipse, and a small error in bearing can cause the target to be outside the pattern. A target on a parallel course is therefore easier to s...
by Steve Crandell
Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:51 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Vanguard vs. Iowa?
Replies: 28
Views: 10638

Re: Vanguard vs. Iowa?

Why do you think a ship could get a hit at 27,000 yds early war and it wasn't possible to get one at 30,000 yds late war? Range determination was much more accurate late war. If you could see the target, you could get accurate bearings. Given accurate range and bearing, you can get target inclinatio...
by Steve Crandell
Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:30 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Vanguard vs. Iowa?
Replies: 28
Views: 10638

Re: Vanguard vs. Iowa?

Why do you think that because the longest range hit was at 27,000 yds that means it wasn't possible to hit things at longer ranges? That happened early in the war, and late war the USN practiced at ranges of over 30,000 yds. They obviously thought they could hit a battleship size target at that rang...
by Steve Crandell
Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:53 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Bismarck and Prinz Eugen vs Pennsylvania and West Virginia (Post PH refits)
Replies: 12
Views: 977

Re: Bismarck and Prinz Eugen vs Pennsylvania and West Virginia (Post PH refits)

Yes, I'd forgotten he was gone. Oh well. The only really effective battleships at Surigao Strait were the three with Mark 8 fire control radars, and those weren't available during the period in question. Washington managed with a Mark 3 at Guadalcanal, but that was at much shorter ranges. She also h...
by Steve Crandell
Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:17 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Bismarck and Prinz Eugen vs Pennsylvania and West Virginia (Post PH refits)
Replies: 12
Views: 977

Re: Bismarck and Prinz Eugen vs Pennsylvania and West Virginia (Post PH refits)

Alberto, Why was Warspite able to fight newer Italian ships, If two USN BBs couldn't fight Bismarck? Personally I can't imagine any particualar battleships would be automatic victors in any WWII engagement, let alone 2:1. Of course I agree that the engagement would never take place due to the low sp...
by Steve Crandell
Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Commodore Harwood
Replies: 5
Views: 403

Re: Commodore Harwood

Wow. New knowledge indeed! I was prepared to correct you because I'd never heard of a six star admiral, but sure enough! Dewey was the only one, as far as I can tell.