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by wadinga
Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:05 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, Hello Hans, I posed the question: Can we return to Bild 146-1990-061 and NH69729 please? As A photogrammetrist are you able to say anything about the angle between the camera axis and the rail? Bill says above : My sense of it, though, based on the numbers I've been able to work...
by wadinga
Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:44 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, The debates of the past raged long and hard around the validity of NH69722 as an accurate record of the vessels' relative positions (and distances) specifically at battle start time. Unlike the present subject and its closely associated photos, there is no doubt as to the orient...
by wadinga
Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:03 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, Specifically for you Bill, but open to all. Can we return to Bild 146-1990-061 and NH69729 please? As A photogrammetrist are you able to say anything about the angle between the camera axis and the rail? It has been suggested that the camera axis might not be very perpendicular ...
by wadinga
Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:16 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, That guy in Herr Nilsson's picture 1 is balancing on the stern of a rocking, pitching, rolling motorboat, and is not leaning on anything, and one might guess the dark strip behind him is the folded tripod in a case, hanging off his shoulder, not being used. It is essential in th...
by wadinga
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:18 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, We have several photographs here looking significantly aft and in all of them the handrails show significant foreshortening and angularity to the horizontal. There is none in the "90 degree" pictures. The relationship between uprights and horizontals show none of these effects. ...
by wadinga
Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:20 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, Well this is splendid! Reasoned responsible discussion. Everything we want and only one thing missing. Hmmm. It would be great if you opened another thread to specifically discuss the movie film, since the reference quoted relies on unwarranted timing and assumptions from the Ge...
by wadinga
Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:28 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, Herr Nilsson has written: I was talking about the movie film when I wrote film sequence. The camera is moving closer towards the railing during this sequence. Agreed, in general the top rail is well below the POV in the movie and as time goes on the rail disappears out below the...
by wadinga
Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:13 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, Hello Herr Nilsson. Can we be careful about terms film and photos? There is movie film of Bismarck taken from the starboard side of PG. Is there any suggestion that is from the same location? We have two "90 degree" photos identified by the railing, and the proximity of the 105m...
by wadinga
Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:56 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, To Herr Nilsson and Hans. Excellent, ground-breaking investigative work, gentlemen, conducted co-operatively in a model manner. To confirm, we now agree the handrail section in question is on the Main or Weather deck, between the starboard midship mount and the crane, and is thu...
by wadinga
Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:08 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, I agree with the sentiments expressed and wish to concentrate on evidence in the photographs themselves, without expending effort on selenian confitures. I am quite happy with Hans' search for handrail locations, few or perhaps non-existent as they may be, purely to justify the ...
by wadinga
Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:21 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, Hello Hans You have said: If cameraman was the same for the two photos (NH69729 and the one posted by Mr. Nilsson), then emplacement should be on the boat deck. Can you explain why these photos have to be on the Boat Deck? When short lengths of aft-angled chain rail were all you...
by wadinga
Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:04 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, Can we be clear whether we are speculating about a location on the Main Deck or on the higher deck for these chained sections? A number of boat stowage locations are indicated on plans of this higher deck, where boat hulls overhang the deck edge, but in war service these fire ha...
by wadinga
Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:56 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, Hello Hans thanks for the photo. I believe you are indicating a location for the midships 105mm mount, where a small hinged three sided deck extension is used when the mount is swung outboard. Indeed this has chains but since two sides, forward and middle do not give the require...
by wadinga
Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:14 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, Yes Bill it contrasts markedly with some of what has gone on before and that vast improvement is purely down to the Moderator acting entirely appropriately and with commendable restraint under extreme provocation. It would be even better if we could tempt in more contributors wi...
by wadinga
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:42 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13630

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Fellow Contributors, Thanks are due to Herr Nilsson who has provided a photograph showing the midships starboard 105mm mounting rotated to a "lookout" position, thus providing important evidence that unengaged mounts might be in such an orientation during DM. It very closely resembles the situation ...