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I fully agree Byron. There is no easy way to know the effect of a hit. The Yamato was able to cope with about 10 torpedoes. But Scharnhorst was seriously damaged by one, same for Bismarck. Regards You raise an interesting argument: Irrespective of the strength/efficacy of any torpedo defense system...

Alberto Virtuani wrote: ↑

Sun May 26, 2019 7:33 pm

No, they were just not willing to contradict the statement written by Leach in his narrative.

Can any evidence be put forward to support this allegation? If not, it must be consigned to the realm of conjecture.
Yet again ..... theories and opinions do not equal facts.

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The Board of Inquiry clearly were a good deal less certain about this point; they left it as an open issue, only offering an opinion that is was probably 8in. Instead of asserting 3 hits as a "fact", it should once again be presented as an "opinion" or a "belief" based upon one's interpretation of a...

BS hit PoW 3 times (1 was not even acknowledged at the time and discovered only in when dry dock...) PG hit PoW 4 times. Once again ..... how can the above claim of three hits made upon PoW by Bismarck, seventy-eight years after the fact, possibly be stated as such a categorical fact when the RN te...

The torpedo protection of a modern battleship is about 5 m wide, that is why it is very difficult to sink a battleship with a couple of torpedoes, they just explode away from the vitals, they can not penetrate the hull as a shell does. On a cruiser it is almost imposible to find 5 m on each side fo...

Hi Sean, The IJN was by no means ignorant of the challenges of long range torpedo fire. IMO the Type 93 was not developed and never envisioned as a "sniper" weapon. Rather, it was seen as a 'shotgun' weapon system developed as part of an integrated Japanese plan to fight and win a major battle fleet...

Hi Thorsten,
Would you agree it is fair to say (basically) that the radius of destruction is approximately equal to the cube root of the charge weight (assuming equivalent explosive performance)?

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Hi Neil, If I recall my reading correctly (with respect to face-hardened plate at any rate) there is an 'ideal' thickness where the intrinsic degree of resistance per unit of thickness is at a maximum (call this a figure of merit). The 'ideal' thickness varies slightly by manufacturer, manufacturing...

FWIW, I have records, from USN target practices, of quite a few first salvo straddles on targets at ranges well over 20,000 yards, even before WWII. So such an occurrence, while unusual, was by no means unknown, especially if the first salvo pattern was fairly large. Bill Jurens I don't discount th...

History is not Mathematics, but both need to operate under scientific principles if they intend to have any purpose. For the rest of your statements, I invite you to read (and try to understand) my posting again, in particular the last paragraph. Squirming around the arguments won't help you escape...

Therefore while I will continue to contribute to the forum I will no longer respond to any of his posts. If everybody would follow this example it would solve the problem quickly. I can only encourage everybody to do the same in order to restore rationality, purpose, and common sense in the forum. ...

[ 2 ] Santarini presents in his book "Bismarck and Hood" a time-line of the hits scored by Bismarck and Prinz Eugen upon Prince of Wales. If Prince of Wales' gunnery problems were indeed caused by radical own ship maneuvering, this did not seem to thwart the shooting of either Bismarck or Prinze Eu...

I'm playing World Of Warships and i've gotten into an argument about how torps work in the game vs. how they worked in reality. I've posted the remarks that have driven me to start this topic, and I'm looking for all the help I can get. Please note that I would like to use the information here to p...

Hello everybody, Byron Angel wrote: "..insofar as I understand your comments so far, currently stands as follows - [ 1 ] The reason that Prince of Wales lost the gunnery plot was a violent turn to starboard to avoid the wreckage of Hood, followed by the large turn-away to port ordered by Leach to b...

Byron, I think the expectation is that POW should have stayed put and been offered up a sacrifice to further enshrine the glory of messrs Lutjens,Lindemann and Schneider. Hi HMSVF, Your guess is as good as any I can conjure. While pondering the subject of Prince of Wales and "effective fire", a cou...