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by Byron Angel
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:47 pm
Forum: The Age of Sail (1571-1860)
Topic: Cutlass or Hanger?
Replies: 2
Views: 1999

Re: Cutlass or Hanger?

Cannot confirm with absolutely full satisfaction, but the term "hanger" I believe probably refers to the means of securing the cutlass to the person when not actually in use. Contrary to Hollywood historiography, sailors did not generally carry their cutlasses between their teeth ..... :angel:

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by Byron Angel
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:23 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12509

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

Re the forum vote -
(a) Track chart reconstruction - Abstain.
(b) The "Cover-up" argument - Unproven.

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by Byron Angel
Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:54 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12509

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

And now for something completely different!!!!! :dance: Mr Virtuani was kind enough to refresh my memory that Adm Lutjens included range data in his lengthy transmission which appear to contradict those indicated by Mullenheim-Rechberg in his book. It is unclear as to where exactly Admiral Lutjens o...
by Byron Angel
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:11 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12509

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

"BS fired at Hood without hitting before 5:58:xx or possibly even after. The accuracy of this statement depends a great deal upon how much credence one wishes to place in Mullenheim-Rechberg's account. > 0553 - Hood opens fire at 22,000 meters (approx. 24,000 yards). > 0555 - Bismarck opens return f...
by Byron Angel
Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:50 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12509

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

Hello everybody, I am at a loss at what people mean by differentiating "shots" and "shell..." from PoW GAR (http://www.hmshood.org.uk/reference/official/adm234/adm234-509guns.htm) the two different "parameters" total guns fired : the ones we call here shells , the actual fired physical shells. tota...
by Byron Angel
Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:43 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12509

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

Indeed, Mr Jurens. One of the annoying pitfalls in my study of history is a confrontation with something that was once such common knowledge that no one felt the need to define it for posterity.

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by Byron Angel
Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:01 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12509

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

. The more interesting comparison would be to compare the gunnery of the two ships between 0553 and 0602. B And that is what we cannot do because we don't know how many hits Bismarck (or PE) scored on Hood. All we know is that Bismarck scored at least 1 x 38cm hit on Hood, resulting in her destruct...
by Byron Angel
Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:42 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12509

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

We know exactly how long lasted the relevant fire action of PoW because her G.O. McMullen defined the interval ( 8 minutes + 58 seconds ), inconvenient as it can be for Mr.Dunmunro. PoW fired 21 salvos. When was the last one fired? What was the time interval between first and last salvo? When was c...
by Byron Angel
Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:52 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12509

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

Hello everybody, I think we should be back to gunnery figures, not discussing Leach behavior when retreating, that is clearly a subjective topic, where anybody is free to have his own personal opinion. Wadinga wrote: "As far as I can see he nowhere mentions a rate of fire for Prince of Wales," very...
by Byron Angel
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:47 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12509

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

"The different assessment of Leach may have been (my personal opinion, of course) heavily conditioned by the 15" shell passing close to him and smashing 2 young midshipmen, but this is a "very human" justification, not a "good military" one." > Leach had just witnessed his admiral's flagship blown ...
by Byron Angel
Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:55 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12509

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

Question -
What was the "heavy shock" felt to Starboard aboard PoW immediately after discharge of her 12th salvo; according to PoW's recorded time entry for salvo 12, this would have occurred @ approximately 0559:30 based upon PoW clock time.

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by Byron Angel
Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:19 am
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: The Catastrophic Sinking of HMS Glorious in 1940
Replies: 17
Views: 2113

Re: The Catastrophic Sinking of HMS Glorious in 1940

Phil,
Quite agree. "Official Histories" in general must IMO be treated with care. They are probably best described by Napoleon's comment about "a mutually agreed tissue of lies" (mostly small "white" lies or "lies of omission", but sometimes real whoppers).

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by Byron Angel
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:58 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12509

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

The "64,000 Dollar Question" - How many rounds did Bismarck discharge in her action against Hood and Prince of Wales? The honest answer is that no one really knows for certain. The figure of 93 rounds relies upon a single source - the "93 rounds expended" comment contained in Lutjen's post action tr...
by Byron Angel
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:43 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12509

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

Someone should be able to provide a quick answer to this question - Did Bismarck possess remote power control of her main battery turrets in train ? > If so, then she arguably might have been able to continue main battery fire under continuous helm. > If not, then her ability to fire while turning w...
by Byron Angel
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:33 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Target data
Replies: 16
Views: 496

Re: Target data

Hello Thorsten, So given the accurate azimuth of the fixed baseline, plus two highly accurate measurements of azimuth from the ends, the remote positions of the ships were derived. Interesting. All the best wadinga The sort of "range-finder" Thorsten describes was common in modern coastal defense s...