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- Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:48 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Best U.S. cruisers at the river Platte
- Replies: 110
- Views: 26856
Re: Best U.S. cruisers at the river Platte
The slower Graf Spee could not have controlled the range. If Spee had concentrated on, presumably, the heavy cruiser, the two Brooklyns would have closed on Spee to unleash an avalanche of 6" shells. The four 6" secondary mounts on Spee would have been no deterrent against the Brooklyns, t...
- Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:34 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Bismarck v Warspite
- Replies: 20
- Views: 8894
Re: Bismarck v Warspite
The forward barbettes were less well protected than the after barbettes? Or do you mean the forward part of the barbette, as opposed to the sides?Tiornu wrote:Understatement! Especially for the forward barbettes.
- Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:23 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Battleship Vittorio Veneto
- Replies: 100
- Views: 30093
Re: Battleship Vittorio Veneto
If only I understood all this. Is it fair to say that V. V. was roughly equivalent to its European contemporaries, at least in terms of a traditional gunnery engagement?
- Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:02 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: French Battleships
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10431
Re: French Battleships
The Dunkerque was at least as well protected (and Strasbourg still better) against 11-inch shellfire as the German twins were against French 13-inch shellfire. The same is almost certainly true of Richelieu as compared to other contemporary European Battleships.
- Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:09 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: KGv class with different guns
- Replies: 145
- Views: 19428
Re: KGv class with different guns
On page 4, RF said: But a POW with 8 x 15 inch at DS - the same armament effectively as Hood - might have been interesting....[/quote] The problem POW had at DS wasn't a lack of 15-inch armament, it was the newness of the ship itself and an inexperienced crew. It was also having Hood as a consort. R...
- Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:31 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Ersatz Yorck vs Hood
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3411
Re: Ersatz Yorck vs Hood
tommy303,
It wasn't the poor quality of British armor piercing shells that blew up four of their battlecruisers in 25 years - 3 in one day! - it was their inability to stand up to German armor piercing shells. The Brtish battlecruisers could hit, they just couldn't be hit.
It wasn't the poor quality of British armor piercing shells that blew up four of their battlecruisers in 25 years - 3 in one day! - it was their inability to stand up to German armor piercing shells. The Brtish battlecruisers could hit, they just couldn't be hit.
- Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:19 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Ersatz Yorck vs Hood
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3411
Re: Ersatz Yorck vs Hood
Knowing that Hood was blown up - just like three other British battlecruisers at Jutland a generation previous - I don't see how you can come to this conclusion.
- Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:16 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Dunkerque and Strasbourg vs. Bismarck
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3936
Dunkerque and Strasbourg vs. Bismarck
Much as I thought two KGV's had a very good prospect of success vs. Yamato, I'm inclined to think along the same lines in this scenario.
- Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:40 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Dunkerque V Kongo
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3738
Re: Dunkerque V Kongo
I'm thinking the more modern - with particular regard to damage control - and more powerfully armed Dunkerque prevails in this contest. Her better protected sister-ship, Strasburg for sure.
- Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:13 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Two KGV's vs. Yamato
- Replies: 333
- Views: 48284
Two KGV's vs. Yamato
Just wondering; could two modern "treaty battleships" handle a contemporary built without treaty restrictions?
- Sun May 11, 2008 5:58 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: The Duelists
- Replies: 59
- Views: 9374
Re: The Duelists
For any decisive gunnery duel to occur, a range of inside 20,000 yards - closer to 15,000 yds - is necessary. We tend to sometimes get carried away with ships' long-range shooting ability but we must remember that hits at long range were few and far between. (Warspite and Scharnhorst each scoring a ...
- Sat May 10, 2008 8:56 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: The Duelists
- Replies: 59
- Views: 9374
Re: The Duelists
1. Very tough call, maybe Rodney. No, Nagato. Hell, I don't know. 2. Hood. No qestion about it. 3. Scharnhorst. The 12" gun was magnificent, but that's all Alaska has going for it. Scharnhorst was well-protected against 12" shells and her own 11" were too much for the thin-skinned Ala...
- Fri May 02, 2008 5:12 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: KGV vs Hood to the end!
- Replies: 91
- Views: 23378
Re: KGV vs Hood to the end!
Two KGV's vs. Tirpitz? Anyone who believes this would not end in a rout for the English has much to learn about the under-estimated KGV class.
- Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:10 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Aircraft vs. Battleships. Case Closed!
- Replies: 14
- Views: 4531
Aircraft vs. Battleships. Case Closed!
On December 10th, 1941 Japanese bombers and torpedo planes proved once and for all the superiority of aircraft vs. battleships. Unlike at Taranto and Pearl Harbor, two important precedents were set on this day: Prince of Wales and Repulse were in open water and free to maneuver, and more importantly...
- Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:10 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: H.M.S. Rodney damage
- Replies: 66
- Views: 49446
I hate to straddle the fence, but here I go. I don't think there is any question that the Iowa's were the best BB's ever built- in terms of their combined qualities such as speed, protection, firepower, A.A. ability, endurance etc. However, if we accept as a hypothetical that another BB is willing t...