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- Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:10 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Redesigning Bismarck
- Replies: 45
- Views: 60070
Re: Redesigning Bismarck
My dim memory of other discussions is that a steam plant was destroyed which powered the oil separation plant.
- Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:44 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Redesigning Bismarck
- Replies: 45
- Views: 60070
Re: Redesigning Bismarck
Having started this, I felt that I shouldn't hide away even if I don't know anything about designing ships. The most significant question seems to be whether to stay with the steam turbine propulsion or to go to Diesel and the related issue is whether to keep three shafts or go to four. The four sha...
- Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:18 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Redesigning Bismarck
- Replies: 45
- Views: 60070
Redesigning Bismarck
For a New Year puzzle, how would members of our community redesign Bismarck if placed in the KM's ship designing office over 1935-6? The ship must carry its 8 38 cm guns in their 4 turrets and follow most of the demands of the KM staff. It will probably have to use the same boilers and turbines. The...
- Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:43 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Fast Battleship League Table
- Replies: 169
- Views: 119570
Re: Fast Battleship League Table
A small issue with the encounters using radar is that some of the ships, such as Duke of York, were equipped with radar jamming equipment by 1943 as briefly mentioned in "German Capital Ships and Raiders in World War II: From Scharnhorst to Tirpitz, 1942-1944" which is a very respectable s...
- Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:40 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Fast Battleship League Table
- Replies: 169
- Views: 119570
Re: Fast Battleship League Table
There is a severe problem in estimating the chances of a shell hitting below the level of the main belt because we do not know how the various shells would behave after hitting the sea. Japanese Type 91 shells were designed to maintain a stable trajectory and estimated to loose half their velocity a...
- Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:08 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Fast Battleship League Table
- Replies: 169
- Views: 119570
Re: Fast Battleship League Table
One issue that does not seem to have been discussed is the possibility of hits below the main armour belts of these ships, which actually become more likely as we move from normal to 30 degrees inclination to incoming shells (at least for ships with internal inclined belts). The clear battleship exa...
- Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:59 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Strangest ship misidentification
- Replies: 19
- Views: 20287
Re: Strangest ship misidentification
According to Wikipedia's article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_Sirte, Italian aircraft identified the merchant ship Breconshire as a battleship. The two reports from RAAF Hudsons of Mikawa's force before Savo Island were slightly misleading. The first had 'three cruisers, three destr...
- Fri Apr 28, 2023 3:42 pm
- Forum: Announcements, News and Updates
- Topic: I have a Press Photograph of Survivors that perhaps you would like to load on the site
- Replies: 3
- Views: 12460
Re: I have a Press Photograph of Survivors that perhaps you would like to load on the site
Imgur is trying to put itself out of business https://tech.slashdot.org/story/23/04/2 ... e-internet
Edit: Sorry misread 2022 as 2023 in previous post!
Edit: Sorry misread 2022 as 2023 in previous post!
- Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:21 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Prince of Wales in front
- Replies: 32
- Views: 12015
Prince of Wales in front
I don't know if this has been discussed before but Tovey ordered Holland to Denmark Straits. What if he had explicitly ordered Holland to place Prince of Wales in front of Hood when going into action whilst saying that there was no need for Holland to shift his flag? Holland obviously wouldn't have ...
- Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:57 pm
- Forum: Military History and Technology
- Topic: Naval turrets being used on land
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2601
Re: Naval turrets being used on land
There is an article in Wikipedia on the use of Gneisenau's turret https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austr%C3%A5tt_Fort with nice pictures. If we want really ingenious uses for battleship mechanisms, the large radio telescope at Jodrell Bank was turned as if it was a battleship turret using machinery fro...
- Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:09 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Why no turtleback?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 8129
Re: Why no turtleback?
I had a 170.7 metres citadel of 241.5 metres at waterline or 70.7% but it is less if you use the overall length from https://www.kbismarck.com/proteccioni.html.
- Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:52 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Why no turtleback?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 8129
Re: Why no turtleback?
What I meant was that the designers wanted to have a certain volume of citadel protected from shells. Having the main armour deck higher enabled them to get the same volume with a shorter citadel. Thus Bismarck had a citadel of around 70% of the ship's length whereas at the other extreme South Dakot...
- Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:03 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Why no turtleback?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 8129
Re: Why no turtleback?
The advantage for the RN, USN and IJN of having a high main armour deck was that you could have a large protected volume with a shorter citadel which allowed you to have thicker belts and a thicker main armour deck. This made sense to the British as they wanted to make devastating single hits as unl...
- Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:27 pm
- Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
- Topic: Oldenburg Battery in France
- Replies: 3
- Views: 2288
Re: Oldenburg Battery in France
Interesting story! We know that the battery was established in May 1941. Rurik was scrapped in 1923 and according to http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_10-50_m1908.php "After Rurik was decommissioned these guns and turrets were put in storage for use in coastal defense installations, but...
- Sun Oct 16, 2022 12:24 am
- Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
- Topic: Why built useless battleships?
- Replies: 61
- Views: 20255
Re: Why built useless battleships?
The question is so famously complicated that it is suggested as an ideal study for teaching history as in "Why Did They Fight the Great War? A Multi-Level Class Analysis of the Causes of the First World War" by Aaron Gillette, November 2006, The History Teacher 40(1):45 https://www.researc...