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by RF
Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:08 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 166
Views: 10010

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

paul.mercer wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:25 am

Also, if tugs had got to her surely she would have constantly been tying to veer off to one side, putting an enormous strain on one of the tugs which would have also been battling heavy sea conditions?
How big and powerful were the available tugs, is there any info on this?
by RF
Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:04 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 166
Views: 10010

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

I believe that the Robert Ballard expedition which found Bismarck established that the rudder was not merely ''jammed'' but had been blown back by the force of the torpedo detonation to the attaching keel plate, and was wrapped around it, which was why it couldn't be freed. I am not a naval engineer...
by RF
Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:51 am
Forum: World War II
Topic: Behind the Lines - Escape to Dunkirk
Replies: 0
Views: 17

Behind the Lines - Escape to Dunkirk

The title of this thread is the name of a 2020 film recently released, which I saw on Sony movie channel 40 last night.

Has anyone else seen this film, if so what do you think? Is the plot of this film credible, or even understandable?
by RF
Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:13 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Vittorio Veneto in the Atlantic
Replies: 0
Views: 26

Vittorio Veneto in the Atlantic

Can I raise a scenario I don't think has been raised before - what could have happened if the Vittorio Veneto had escaped into the Atlantic during 1940? There are of course a number of problems with this, being first one being how does the VV get through the Straits of Gibraltar unscathed and the ot...
by RF
Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:59 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 166
Views: 10010

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

For instance the USN cruisers Minneapolis and New Orleans both had their bows blown off by torpedoes, but with propulsion and rudders almost undamaged would have been prime candidates for sailing 60 or 70 miles or even 300 ?? I know this is going off at a tangent, but can I ask a quick question - H...
by RF
Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:44 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 166
Views: 10010

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

The proposal for towing KGV came from Churchill, not the Admiralty, Tovey was furious at the suggestion because KGV would have then been a sitting target for U-boats.
by RF
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:57 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 166
Views: 10010

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

I think that the general opinion in this Forum is that nothing could be done to save the ship, the senior officers were all experienced seamen and no doubt did consider all the available options, but none were practicable in the prevailing weather conditions. We don't really know what was discussed...
by RF
Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:11 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 166
Views: 10010

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

Hi RF, You are absolutely correct on this point, the problem was that unlike the RN, once the German ships were far from home they had no safe haven to run to without risking internment which is why they were told not to engage with enemy capital ships in case they got severely damaged and refused ...
by RF
Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:13 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 166
Views: 10010

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

Hello Paul, yes, let's agree to disagree: IMHO fate of Bismarck was sealed by the single torpedo that blocked the rudders, not by having been merely located by airplanes. I think this statement does need some qualification. What doomed Bismarck was the lack of any effective support or back up in th...
by RF
Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:26 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 166
Views: 10010

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

Hello Mr.Wadinga, reading the Baron, he says different combinations where attempted, but always trying to get the bow pointing to South-East, that resulted impossible. He never mention all engines being put astern together or even a combination of astern and stop. Finally, all engines were put to s...
by RF
Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:18 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 166
Views: 10010

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

Consider this situation from another aspect.

Suppose the Bismarck was a US Navy battleship instead of German. What would a US naval crew have done in that situation, cut off from any outside help, the US Navy having a different culture, history and traditions to the KM?
by RF
Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:32 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 166
Views: 10010

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

Churchill did have one factor that at that time would make him virtually fireproof - who do you replace him with? The House of Commons censure debate after the fall of Tobruk in early 1942, designed covertly to push Churchill out, failed on that very point, even with by that time the USA in the war ...
by RF
Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:30 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 166
Views: 10010

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

The situation on the night of 26-27 May 1941 was a fairly rough sea, making diving operations very difficult if not impossible, and you also have to consider the state of the crew having been at action stations continuously for nearly three days. Add to this the attacks of Vian's destroyers. Neither...
by RF
Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:57 am
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Erroneously landing on an enemy aircraft carrier?!
Replies: 13
Views: 1106

Re: Erroneously landing on an enemy aircraft carrier?!

I believe there was an incident in Belgium, around February 1940, when a German reconnaissance aircraft landed as a result of a navigation error at a military airfield. The crew were carrying details of the original German invasion plan of France in 1940 and there was a panic in Berlin that these pl...
by RF
Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:33 pm
Forum: Military Conflicts Today
Topic: China and the Biden Administration
Replies: 5
Views: 360

Re: China and the Biden Administration

You would also possibly have to add India to the equation, which in turn drags in Pakistan.....