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by RF
Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:59 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 154
Views: 9553

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

For instance the USN cruisers Minneapolis and New Orleans both had their bows blown off by torpedoes, but with propulsion and rudders almost undamaged would have been prime candidates for sailing 60 or 70 miles or even 300 ?? I know this is going off at a tangent, but can I ask a quick question - H...
by RF
Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:44 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 154
Views: 9553

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

The proposal for towing KGV came from Churchill, not the Admiralty, Tovey was furious at the suggestion because KGV would have then been a sitting target for U-boats.
by RF
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:57 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 154
Views: 9553

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

I think that the general opinion in this Forum is that nothing could be done to save the ship, the senior officers were all experienced seamen and no doubt did consider all the available options, but none were practicable in the prevailing weather conditions. We don't really know what was discussed...
by RF
Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:11 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 154
Views: 9553

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

Hi RF, You are absolutely correct on this point, the problem was that unlike the RN, once the German ships were far from home they had no safe haven to run to without risking internment which is why they were told not to engage with enemy capital ships in case they got severely damaged and refused ...
by RF
Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:13 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 154
Views: 9553

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

Hello Paul, yes, let's agree to disagree: IMHO fate of Bismarck was sealed by the single torpedo that blocked the rudders, not by having been merely located by airplanes. I think this statement does need some qualification. What doomed Bismarck was the lack of any effective support or back up in th...
by RF
Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:26 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 154
Views: 9553

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

Hello Mr.Wadinga, reading the Baron, he says different combinations where attempted, but always trying to get the bow pointing to South-East, that resulted impossible. He never mention all engines being put astern together or even a combination of astern and stop. Finally, all engines were put to s...
by RF
Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:18 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 154
Views: 9553

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

Consider this situation from another aspect.

Suppose the Bismarck was a US Navy battleship instead of German. What would a US naval crew have done in that situation, cut off from any outside help, the US Navy having a different culture, history and traditions to the KM?
by RF
Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:32 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 154
Views: 9553

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

Churchill did have one factor that at that time would make him virtually fireproof - who do you replace him with? The House of Commons censure debate after the fall of Tobruk in early 1942, designed covertly to push Churchill out, failed on that very point, even with by that time the USA in the war ...
by RF
Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:30 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 154
Views: 9553

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

The situation on the night of 26-27 May 1941 was a fairly rough sea, making diving operations very difficult if not impossible, and you also have to consider the state of the crew having been at action stations continuously for nearly three days. Add to this the attacks of Vian's destroyers. Neither...
by RF
Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:57 am
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Erroneously landing on an enemy aircraft carrier?!
Replies: 13
Views: 1055

Re: Erroneously landing on an enemy aircraft carrier?!

I believe there was an incident in Belgium, around February 1940, when a German reconnaissance aircraft landed as a result of a navigation error at a military airfield. The crew were carrying details of the original German invasion plan of France in 1940 and there was a panic in Berlin that these pl...
by RF
Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:33 pm
Forum: Military Conflicts Today
Topic: China and the Biden Administration
Replies: 5
Views: 315

Re: China and the Biden Administration

You would also possibly have to add India to the equation, which in turn drags in Pakistan.....
by RF
Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:43 pm
Forum: Military Conflicts Today
Topic: China and the Biden Administration
Replies: 5
Views: 315

China and the Biden Administration

With the new US administration settling in and Red China seeking to increase its influence and economic power in the world, and in Asia in particular, I was wondering at the prospects of a major, deliberate challenge to the USA by China in the form of an invasion of Taiwan. Previous US administratio...
by RF
Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:23 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: bismark-after torpedo hit
Replies: 154
Views: 9553

Re: bismark-after torpedo hit

As an addendum to the final paragraph above there would also be the same fuel shortages that also kept Tirpitz largely port bound. Had Bismarck lasted to 1943 there would then be Hitlers' decision to scrap the large surface vessels and to use their guns as coastal batteries.
by RF
Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:31 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Royal Navy Super Battleships and Battlecruisers
Replies: 124
Views: 68866

Re: Royal Navy Super Battleships and Battlecruisers

I think it would be very difficult for Scharnhorst to operate in the South Atlantic at all, due to fuel/cruising range issues. Uckermark managed to get to Japan in 1942 with the US in the war, so I think a sortie by Scharnhorst in say 1940 supported by Uckermark/Nordmark/ Dithmarschen would have be...
by RF
Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:26 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Royal Navy Super Battleships and Battlecruisers
Replies: 124
Views: 68866

Re: Royal Navy Super Battleships and Battlecruisers

re AGS, do you think Cumberland could have taken her on by herself - 8 x 8" is quite a lot of firepower against a fairly lightly armoured ship? Again, I suppose its all down to who hits first and hardest. That came very close to happening during October 1939 when these two ships (Cumberland on her ...