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- Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:01 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best rebuilt battleship?
- Replies: 63
- Views: 37874
Re: Best rebuilt battleship?
Hi Dan, But the devil is in the details. It was not a stern chase at that phase of the encounter. Luetjens did not turn away until after the 15" hit through Gneisenau's foretop knocked out his radar. ( Luetjen's thought he was engaging the main Home Fleet battle squadron, and that Renown was N...
- Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:55 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best rebuilt battleship?
- Replies: 63
- Views: 37874
Re: Best rebuilt battleship?
MVictorP wrote: "The Italian beauties were just too much modernized for the result." Hi, I fully agree: they were elegant ships (with some very innovative features, like the attention to AA armament in Doria class), but their protection was not improved (compared to a WWI standard) and th...
- Mon May 29, 2017 11:13 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best rebuilt battleship?
- Replies: 63
- Views: 37874
Re: Best rebuilt battleship?
For a ship of the line, the WeeVee and Tennessees were the best. Their advanced FC outfit gave them an unsurpassed ability to hit, and they were powerfully armed. For a more mobile design, Renown or a Kongo would be good choices. The Italian ships represent a remarkable achievement, but I really di...
- Sun May 28, 2017 8:41 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Zerstorers
- Replies: 5
- Views: 7759
Re: Zerstorers
I agree with Paul L; Having no colonies nor large marine lines, Germany didn't need bona fide Destroyers - nor did it needed cruisers, IMO. It was essentially a light coastal force with bigger raiding elements. 1200t Sloops/Escort Destroyers and their excellent S-Boot, small fleet stuff, would have ...
- Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:05 am
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Worst Battlecruiser of WW1 and WW2
- Replies: 15
- Views: 15296
Re: Worst Battlecruiser of WW1 and WW2
I think the term we use is Battlecruiser. And I think it fits the Alaska class well. I've already did a link about why I think the Alaskas were BCs, not CAs, and I don't feel the real urge to repost it again. WW1: Design-wise: The Corageous class. ABout the same size as the Invincible class of 1906...
- Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:52 pm
- Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
- Topic: Was the Blücher really such a bad design?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 23780
Re: Was the Blücher really such a bad design?
My question would be ''what exactly is the role of the Blucher?'' If the role, as it should be, is to engage cruisers then it would seem admirably suited. If the expectation is to engage big gun battlecruisers and battleships then I wouldn't want to be on Bluchers' bridge. Blucher had not the neces...
- Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:59 pm
- Forum: Naval Technology
- Topic: WWII Iowa Class' Stability, Seakeeping, Structural Strength
- Replies: 3
- Views: 7088
WWII Iowa Class' Stability, Seakeeping, Structural Strength
Okay I know I dwell into expert territory here, but as an amateur ship simmer (I use Rick Robinson's Spring Style and Spring Sharp), I have a problem simming a correct Iowa (whereas I have no problem simming anything else), and maybe I get get some tips here. Using data collected here and there on t...
- Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:23 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Washington Treaty & its effects
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3254
Re: Washington Treaty & its effects
But Raeder was aware of the politics of the situation and was keen right from the start of the ''Deutschland project'' to keep up appearances of complying with the ''spirit'' of the W T provisions. After all in 1931 the Deutschland was the only ''heavy weapon'' Weimar Germany actually had. Thre's i...
- Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:47 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Washington Treaty & its effects
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3254
Re: Washington Treaty & its effects
The Panzerschiffe were not WT ships, they were Versailles peace treaty vessels. Germany was not participant of the WT. offically they weighted 10.000 tons, wich was the Versailles-Limit for all new build capital ships of germany. The Panzerschiffen, altought not from a WT signatary, had nonetheless...
- Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:19 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Washington Treaty & its effects
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3254
Re: Washington Treaty & its effects
I believe that without the WT, cruisers (WWI light ones, from which even the WT-borne Heavy Cruiser comes from) would have followed the regular route of any warship - getting bigger, in terms of tonnage and gun bore size. I believe the they would have been around 12 000t by WWII's time, maybe reachi...
- Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:22 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Evaluating Coastal BBs: Sverige vs Nachi & Haguro
- Replies: 0
- Views: 3182
Evaluating Coastal BBs: Sverige vs Nachi & Haguro
Take the Swedish Sverige , but put a Netherland flag on it and send it to the Java Sea Battle intead of DeRuyter, where it will face the two heavy hitters of the japanese invasion force, Nachi, Haguro and their 10 8-inchers broadsides. Could the battle be any different? How do you value coastal batt...
- Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:34 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best cruisers of WWII and the best use of cruisers
- Replies: 171
- Views: 85687
Re: Best cruisers of WWII and the best use of cruisers
I do not agree: Bah. You posted me a generic opinion. French problems were exaggerated (in typical WASP fashion), like dispersion which wasn't so bad to begin with, and is almost irrelevant when a battleship is targeted, while the US entry features an lengthy text about a weapon that's never been f...
- Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:39 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best cruisers of WWII and the best use of cruisers
- Replies: 171
- Views: 85687
Re: Best cruisers of WWII and the best use of cruisers
Well the Balitmores can be considered antecedants in many ways. The Baltimores being the base for the Alaskas is actually your best argument when claiming the Alaskas are cruisers - much better than official USN classification. However, some second-class battleships are indeed a further development...
- Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:48 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best cruisers of WWII and the best use of cruisers
- Replies: 171
- Views: 85687
Re: Best cruisers of WWII and the best use of cruisers
These aren't really outside the definitoins as you've pointed out they have defintions. They simply aren't the ones used in the treaties. Don't mix up treaty definitions and any given ship's definition: The Panzerschiff were extremely well defined ship in terms of their goals, but were made to elud...
- Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:22 pm
- Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
- Topic: Best cruisers of WWII and the best use of cruisers
- Replies: 171
- Views: 85687
Re: Best cruisers of WWII and the best use of cruisers
YOu note the TDS is a function of era and intended role then say it's not evidence that the Alaskas were cruisers? US cruisers didn't have TDS US battlesips and battlecruisers did. That may not be a definitive sign but it's certainly a sign. (...) It's pretty clear from their intedned roles and the...