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by HMSVF
Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:20 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Adm Troubridge-right/wrong-in the GOEBEN AFFAIR
Replies: 28
Views: 14222

Re: Adm Troubridge-right/wrong-in the GOEBEN AFFAIR

An important new piece of scholarship on Coronel is due to be published within the next year or so. B I'm pretty sure that one of the authors may write on the "all the worlds battlecruisers" website as they talk about Coronel in great depth and about future work. From what I read it was very intere...
by HMSVF
Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:36 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Adm Troubridge-right/wrong-in the GOEBEN AFFAIR
Replies: 28
Views: 14222

Re: Adm Troubridge-right/wrong-in the GOEBEN AFFAIR

Gentlemen, I realise this is off the current topic, but in WW2 was there an incident where an Admiral commanding either Renown or Repulse who was criticized for not attacking some Vichy French cruisers due to either a misunderstanding or a conflict of orders from the Admiralty? I believe he wrote t...
by HMSVF
Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:27 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Adm Troubridge-right/wrong-in the GOEBEN AFFAIR
Replies: 28
Views: 14222

Re: Adm Troubridge-right/wrong-in the GOEBEN AFFAIR

T/O A tricky one. He wasn't armoured well enough, he wasn't fast enough, he had no guarantee that his 9.2's would have done any substantial damage to Goeben. Harwood 25 years later showed that 3 smaller ships could tackle a larger foe BUT he [Harwood] had the advantage of speed - AGS wasn't going to...
by HMSVF
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:48 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Better damage control what if?
Replies: 5
Views: 468

Re: Better damage control what if?

OpanaPointer wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:49 pm
Possibly informative. https://maritime.org/doc/dc/

Wow! Thanks for that OP! Looks an interesting read!
by HMSVF
Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:31 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Better damage control what if?
Replies: 5
Views: 468

Re: Better damage control what if?

An interesting question, The only problem that i could see was that although the counter flooding on one side could be controlled, the other side might not, leading to an increasing amount coming in on that side so she would still have listed over eventually. This is what I found on Wikipedia Final...
by HMSVF
Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:22 pm
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: design of turrets
Replies: 5
Views: 489

Re: design of turrets

Yes, I think a dome would be counterproductive because the shell would likely hit on it's side, making it more likely to penetrate. In addition, a dome would be more difficult to fashion with face hardened steel and weigh more for a given thickness. edit: I just realized that most navies didn't mak...
by HMSVF
Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:06 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3511

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

Read the entire JSTor article referenced, Sean, and do the math for yourself - it was a “loan” in name only: two million pounds loaned and three million pounds in direct subsidy was an unprecedented deal implemented at a time when the naval budget was approaching a crisis level. I hardly imagine th...
by HMSVF
Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:40 pm
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: design of turrets
Replies: 5
Views: 489

Re: design of turrets

Gentlemen, Looking at some of the turrets on later battleships they appear to be almost flat on top, if, as has been discussed elseware, a shell arrives at an angle and does not fall vertically, surely a turret roof with a bit of a 'dome' on it would increase the chances of it glancing off. Obvious...
by HMSVF
Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:08 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Better damage control what if?
Replies: 5
Views: 468

Better damage control what if?

From reading DK Browns work I'm of the understanding that if HMS Ark Royals remaining engine/boiler room had been flooded she would have settled on an even keel and could have been towed into Gibraltar (apparently this was taught in damage control classes). Which begs the question... What would the ...
by HMSVF
Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:00 pm
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: Loading big guns
Replies: 4
Views: 221

Re: Loading big guns

Thanks to you both for your replies, it still looked like jolly hard work. Also, i'm not sure if the navy painted the shell nose as in the film, still, it wasn't a bad film bearing in mind it's age. We are very lucky that she (HMS Vanguard) was still around when the film was produced. Those shots a...
by HMSVF
Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:45 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3511

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

Been ill. The logic underlying the "dreadnought armoured cruiser" as a solution to the German high-speed transatlantic raid threat was that the government was spending stupendous amounts in subsidy payments to the commercial owners of the huge new British transatlantic liners in order to have use o...
by HMSVF
Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:43 pm
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: the main armament of the General Belgrano
Replies: 22
Views: 775

Re: the main armament of the General Belgrano

Hi Marcelo, Reading up a bit more about the escort destroyers, I understand that both were of WW2 vintage so I do wonder that even if they had been in fairly close contact with the Belgrano whether they would have been capable of detecting let alone attacking HMS Conqueror and bearing in mind what ...
by HMSVF
Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:16 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3511

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

Hi Wadinga, I think there development was part of a rationalisation of RN numbers and focus. Fisher had already called the RN a “ a misers hoard of old junk” with ships “too old to fight,too slow to run away” (or similar). I think that he (rightly) saw Germany as the biggest threat. We had a treaty ...
by HMSVF
Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:04 am
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: the main armament of the General Belgrano
Replies: 22
Views: 775

Re: the main armament of the General Belgrano

I am not sure she would have survived with a better trained crew. AFAIK the aft impact killed most of the victims of the sinking, because the torpedo exploded just below the crew quarters when most of the crew was at rest. The other impact sectioned the bow just forward of A turret. May be in the P...
by HMSVF
Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:49 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3511

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

Hi Admiral Semmes and others, After a little on-line research of reviews of the mighty (and expensive) strategical tomes created by the academical behemoths Sumida, Seligmann et al it seems that their major fight is whether the mercurial mind of Fisher had eventually decided naval war in the constr...