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- Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:29 pm
- Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
- Topic: Blucher in Dogger Bank
- Replies: 23
- Views: 4314
Re: Blucher in Dogger Bank
Hi All, Oh....well.....whatever. Returning to Marcelo's original post, according to Staff's Battle of the Seven Seas which is based on German Official reports and Scheer's book, Hipper did turn to "make a stand", after running away at maximum speed for several hours, when he realised the t...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:38 am
- Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
- Topic: Blucher in Dogger Bank
- Replies: 23
- Views: 4314
Re: Blucher in Dogger Bank
Hi Byron and all, Having referenced the inaccuracies in Scheer's description of Dogger Bank and since I possess the book, I am well aware Skagerrak is covered in less detail than some other works. However Scheer's misrepresentations and creations of alternate facts (heroic liberties) are not errors ...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:13 pm
- Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
- Topic: Blucher in Dogger Bank
- Replies: 23
- Views: 4314
Re: Blucher in Dogger Bank
Hi All, If any further evidence were needed apart from Friedman's inciteful assessment, Scheer's own writing is available, from his own self-serving and downright inaccurate account of Skaggerak which some Teutonophiles might prefer to accept uncritically, rather than admit its numerous distortions ...
- Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:27 am
- Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
- Topic: Blucher in Dogger Bank
- Replies: 23
- Views: 4314
Re: Blucher in Dogger Bank
Hi Byron, You vastly underestimate your value at only one penny :D This original material is an extremely valuable contribution to the debate and genuinely appreciated by me, as it should be by all who post here. :clap: :clap: :clap: Given the poor visibility and Scheer's location vis a vis the head...
- Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:05 pm
- Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
- Topic: Blucher in Dogger Bank
- Replies: 23
- Views: 4314
Re: Blucher in Dogger Bank
Hi All, In his highly imaginative post-war rewrite of reality, Scheer claimed his motive for actually turning his whole fleet back , not just a few destroyers, into the gunnery maelstrom was to rescue poor Wiesbaden . Norman Friedman, writing in Fighting the Great War at Sea, references the German O...
- Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:27 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: closing up bismarck during daylight action
- Replies: 11
- Views: 4195
Re: closing up bismarck during daylight action
Hi Chuckfan3, There is a need to lower railings which might hinder or be damaged by weapons fire but they were left in place elsewhere. There are plenty of pictures of Prinz Eugen's crew taking the air on deck during the mission. I would suggest modelling the ship "closed up" for action. A...
- Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:23 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Redesigning Bismarck
- Replies: 45
- Views: 58827
Re: Redesigning Bismarck
Hi All, To return to a redesigned Bismarck , Hans is, of course correct. A firm decision was indeed made to switch to completely diesel propulsion for the H class as laid down and, shortly after allocation of the first resources and work on the keel, to abandon construction completely. M J Whitley i...
- Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:03 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: closing up bismarck during daylight action
- Replies: 11
- Views: 4195
Re: closing up bismarck during daylight action
Hi All, Definitely concur with esteemed moderator. During this mission there was always the possibility of a breaking wave or aircraft strafing damaging unprotected glass, not to mention a forgotten deadlight allowing light out as a giveaway at night. Fresh air or natural daylight is an unnecessary ...
- Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:13 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Redesigning Bismarck
- Replies: 45
- Views: 58827
Re: Redesigning Bismarck
Hi All, Before I am shot down, Z-51 did get off the drawing board but only as an unfinished hulk with no propulsion installed, after a lengthy, chaotic design process see Wikipedia. Promised, extrapolated performance is no guarantee of reliable delivery. As for the long distance commerce raiding rol...
- Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:30 am
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Redesigning Bismarck
- Replies: 45
- Views: 58827
Re: Redesigning Bismarck
Hello Hans, To me the Kriegsmarine situation vis-a-vis diesels vs turbines for large ships is similar to the steam reciprocating vs steam turbines that the RN faced at the beginning of the 20th century. The civilian Turbinia had embarrassed the RN at Queen Victoria's Fleet Review by outrunning the f...
- Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:25 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Redesigning Bismarck
- Replies: 45
- Views: 58827
Re: Redesigning Bismarck
Hi All, The bitter conflict between diesel and steam enthusiasts in the Kriegsmarine was at a crescendo when the H-39 design was underway. Reading Koop and Schmolke's Pocket Battleships of the Deutschland class it is suggested their diesels were bedevilled by excessive demands for low weight and ins...
- Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:26 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Redesigning Bismarck
- Replies: 45
- Views: 58827
Re: Redesigning Bismarck
Hi All, Breyer describes the proposed power plants for the H class behemoths: mainly employing MAN diesels for cruising/endurance, with steam turbines for extra tactical speed. After an earlier aborted cruiser design, there were no more pure diesel-driven proposals, based presumably on the pocket ba...
- Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:32 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Redesigning Bismarck
- Replies: 45
- Views: 58827
Re: Redesigning Bismarck
Hi All, It often forgotten that ships operate at the boundary layer of two fluids, one vastly less dense than the other. However air can move at far higher velocities and thus exert considerable effect on the course of a ship through wind resistance (windage). The larger the hull and superstructure,...
- Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:02 pm
- Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
- Topic: Redesigning Bismarck
- Replies: 45
- Views: 58827
Re: Redesigning Bismarck
Hi Thorsten, This appears wrong, Bismarck was able to maintain a north westerly general (zig zag) course despite heavy seastate, wind up to hurricane strenght and considerable ruddereffect from the damaged rudders. I think it was not despite but indeed because of the weather on her bow balancing the...
- Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:39 am
- Forum: Books and Reference
- Topic: Alan Raven RIP
- Replies: 1
- Views: 9101
Re: Alan Raven RIP
To All,
It is indeed sad to mark the passing of an expert and prolific author like Alan Raven. He has left a great legacy in his publications and I am proud to say I have many of his works on my bookshelves.
All the best
wadinga
It is indeed sad to mark the passing of an expert and prolific author like Alan Raven. He has left a great legacy in his publications and I am proud to say I have many of his works on my bookshelves.
All the best
wadinga